Black Swamp Find?

[CW]

Originally Posted by glchen

Linky

Thanks for posting that.

Looking at those cards... wow! It's like going back in time....

[ullmandds]

Thanks for posting the link that is the first time I saw all of those cards together amazing! What strikes me as odd obviously is the vast majority of cards that are red? So if all of these cards came from a store that was supposed to give them away... it would make sense that the colors were printed at different times and it just so happens that this store got almost all reds... very interesting!

[Matthew H]

Sheesh, I just got blinded by the white boarders! I'm guessing the Tinker and Jennings were part of the group represented by a single example...

Nothing against Heritage but it's funny how some auction descriptions will go on for days while this one somewhat leaves us in the dark.

[E93]

Those cards are mind-boggling! I am speechless!
JimB

[philliesphan]

Here is the PSA pop. report for the E98 set.

It does appear as if there may be a [small] number of additional cards out there, but the auction description does mention that there are two PSA 10 Kling's for example.

Notably, the Pop. report has many examples of a few cards:

Twelve Chief Meyers graded PSA 9 (and two graded PSA 10)
Eighteen Johnny Kling cards graded PSA 9
FIFTEEN TY COBB cards graded PSA 9.

Those numbers for those three players are even more extreme than the Toleteros Gibson. At this point, only a fool would pay up significant coin for one of the Cobbs.

M

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by philliesphan

Here is the PSA pop. report for the E98 set.

It does appear as if there may be a [small] number of additional cards out there, but the auction description does mention that there are two PSA 10 Kling's for example.

Notably, the Pop. report has many examples of a few cards:

Twelve Chief Meyers graded PSA 9 (and two graded PSA 10)
Eighteen Johnny Kling cards graded PSA 9
FIFTEEN TY COBB cards graded PSA 9.

Those numbers for those three players are even more extreme than the Toleteros Gibson. At this point, only a fool would pay up significant coin for one of the Cobbs.

M

I can see how this would drive down the $ received for a PSA9 Cobb for this issue, but how much do you think it will depress the price? After all, it's still Cobb in a very high grade. What do you think is a realistic price for this card?

[glchen]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Thanks for posting the link that is the first time I saw all of those cards together amazing! What strikes me as odd obviously is the vast majority of cards that are red? So if all of these cards came from a store that was supposed to give them away... it would make sense that the colors were printed at different times and it just so happens that this store got almost all reds... very interesting!

If you want some more color variations, here are some greens: Linky

[barrysloate]

What's interesting is high grade E98's, once considered quite rare, are now going to be relatively easy to find. You'll see some in every upcoming major auction. This group will continue to circulate for years to come. Nevertheless, an extraordinary group of cards.

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

What's interesting is high grade E98's, once considered quite rare, are now going to be relatively easy to find. You'll see some in every upcoming major auction. This group will continue to circulate for years to come. Nevertheless, an extraordinary group of cards.

Barry, to me this seems like a Mello Mints type of situation. Yes, there are three cards that will be profoundly easy to find in high grade. But, like the Mello Mint find, there is a huge skew of population here.

15 Ty Cobb PSA 9s? But no Bresnahan's, with the highest graded copy there a PSA 7 Lots of Johnny Klings, but no Miner Browns.

What I envision happening is that these high grade examples will most likely fall into type collectors runs. It will be interesting to see how these are filtered into the hobby, as surely this Heritage grouping is only round one, though it might represent the best and most complete run of the find.

[markf31]

I usually don't like to get involved in the grading arguments but I did just have one observation. As easlier in the thread people were pointing out the Wagner card's flaws as to why it should not be graded a 10 and while they are valid arguments my only question would be why do some issues get a pass on certain blemishes or conditions and yet we just accept them as the norm.

The glaring example that comes to mind for me are T205s and their gold borders. If you saw some of the boarder loss on other issues that you see on T205s the grades would be significantly lower, yet it seems we just accept them with the T205s. Just my two cents.

[three25hits]

Its nice to see how big the borders on E cards should be...