Premium for Lionel Carter Collection Cards?

[Jay Wolt]

After all, if you had a choice between the pedigreed card and the non-pedigreed card, in same condition and same price, you'd pick the pedigree card every time, no?

Depends who's pedigree is on the card.
As a collector of pedigreed cards, I won't pay a premium on some collectors who wanted their name on the card.
Be it Mr. X, Harris, Rothman, Pollard, Hull etc...
But hobby pioneers, that's a different story, I will pay a premium for Lionel Carter, Jefferson Burdick, Buck Barker, Frank Nagy, Sir E.W. Tigar etc..
I would also pay a premium for baseball players own personal cards.

[GregMitch34]

Yeah, but how MUCH of a premium would you pay for a Lionel Carter?

[g_vezina_c55]

Like many of you know, i own the lionel carter 's t206 eddie plank and for me this card have more value than any other graded 1 plank. I love the pedigree card and the fact that card was put away long time ago but 1 of the first pioneers of our hobby.

For me all pioneers pedigree deserve à premium value .

[MW1]

I have sold quite a few cards from Lionel Carter's collection over the last five years (more than 100) and have generally realized prices in the 1.25 to 2X range, depending on the card. Some examples sold on eBay since 2008:

1948 Bowman #34 Sheldon Jones SGC 50 $45
1948 Bowman #26 Frank Shea SGC 50 $40
1937 O-Pee-Chee #130 Ben Chapman SGC 60 $175
1948 Bowman #25 Barney McCoskey SGC Authentic $45
1948 Bowman #28 Emil Verban SGC Authentic $50
1948 Bowman #38 Red Schoendienst SGC 84 $590
1948 Bowman #42 Ray Poat SGC 70 $72
1948-49 Leaf #128 Warren Rosar SGC 88 $475
1948 Bowman #48 George Koslo RC SGC 88 $800
1948 Bowman #16 Jack Lohrke SGC 88 $400
1948 Bowman #27 Sid Gordon SGC 88 $300
1948-49 Leaf #14 Billy Johnson SGC 86 $400
1948 Bowman #1 Bob Elliott SGC 84 $146.50
1948 Bowman #6 Yogi Berra SGC 84 $611.01
1948-49 Leaf #53 Johnny Vandermeer SGC 84 $251.98
1948 Bowman #3 Ralph Kiner RC SGC 84 $260.00
1948 Bowman #17 Enos Slaughter SGC 84 $178.00
1937 O-Pee-Chee #137 Lefty Grove SGC 84 $1000.00
1937 O-Pee-Chee #139 Buck Newsom SGC 84 $400.00
1948 Bowman #36 Stan Musial Rookie SGC 88 $3250.00
1948-49 Leaf #11 Phil Rizzuto SGC 84 $750.00
1948-49 Leaf #31 Lou Brissie SGC 86 $500.00
1948-49 Leaf #83 Bobby Doerr SGC 86 $600.00
1948-49 Leaf #77 Roy Smalley SGC 86 $450.00
1948-49 Leaf #39 Ewell Blackwell SGC 84 $265.00
1948-49 Leaf #1 Joe DiMaggio SGC 80 $2500.00
1937 O-Pee-Chee #119 Bill Dickey SGC 84 $1200.00
1948-49 Leaf #49 Del Ennis SGC 88 $700.00
1948-49 Leaf #14 Billy Johnson SGC 86 $400.00
1956 Topps #181 Billy Martin SGC 88 $400.00
1948 Bowman #5 Bob Feller SGC 92 $1000.00
1948-49 Leaf #91 Ralph Kiner SGC 84 $425.00
1948 Bowman #18 Warren Spahn RC SGC 84 $750.00
1934-36 Diamond Stars #11 Bill Dickey SGC 84 $550.00
1934-36 Diamond Stars #32 Sam Rice SGC 84 $225.00


Note: Some of the card prices above reflect a multiplier greater than 2X, but this mostly comprises those examples that are otherwise NM-MT or Mint but have relatively small defects that lower the technical condition by one or more grades.

[mrvster]

I pais almost 2x for an f.scotty epdg......

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Yeah, but how MUCH of a premium would you pay for a Lionel Carter?

As I stated in my initial post, a small premium, maybe 10-20%
Unless its a tougher Lionel Carter issue. I have about 25-30 different card issues w/ the Carter pedigree.
A T206, '33 Goudey or 1957 Topps is pretty common since the sets weren't kept in tact and you can pick one up on ebay whenever you like.
Some other sets just aren't out there like Turkey Reds or Old Judges. If something like that surfaced, I'd probably pay double the card value to land one.