PSA counterfeit cards!!! Beware

[delawarevintage]

I purchased a counterfeit 1952 Topps Mantle in a PSA holder. I called PSA before I made the purchase. I wanted to know if the card was stolen. The PSA rep said they don't have that information but make sure the Serial numbers match up. Of course they do. Why was I not informed about the scam. Asking questions should have raised a red flag with the PSA rep. I would have avoided the deal with any kind of warning. The president of PSA implied that I was an idiot and how dare I blame his rep. Really? Any suggestions as to what I should do?

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by delawarevintage

I purchased a counterfeit 1952 Topps Mantle in a PSA holder. I called PSA before I made the purchase. I wanted to know if the card was stolen. The PSA rep said they don't have that information but make sure the Serial numbers match up. Of course they do. Why was I not informed about the scam. Asking questions should have raised a red flag with the PSA rep. I would have avoided the deal with any kind of warning. The president of PSA implied that I was an idiot and how dare I blame his rep. Really? Any suggestions as to what I should do?

I hope you bought it on eBay through PayPal? Or if not, did you buy it with a major credit card?

[delawarevintage]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I hope you bought it on eBay through PayPal? Or if not, did you buy it with a major credit card?

No, I paid cash. I thought I was doing the right thing by calling PSA before I made the deal. They told me to make sure the serial numbers match. I got no warning about Craigslist, tampering with PSA Cases Be Careful, I would have avoided the deal if given any information.

[jcmtiger]

Beware

[e107collector]

You're probably going to have a hard time gettng your money back, since you did the deal with cash. Just my opinion.

I wish you the best of luck.

Tony

[Tcards-Please]

Mike,

Sorry this happened to you as there are quite a bit of scammers out there, but some of the blame has to reside on your shoulders for not conducting a thorough research. How do you know it's fake? Unless you just rolled out of bed, there are numerous discussions on the internet about fake 1952 Topps Mantles and PSA slabbed cards. I mean, you found this thread buried deep in ARCHIVE. Although not a fan of PSA myself, how are they to know the specifics of every card residing in a holder? I'm assuming since you don't know how to scan a picture, you didn't provide them a copy either so at least they had a visual of what you were getting ready to purchase.

Where did you purchase this card? If from Craigslist or a newspaper, could you please give the location or name of the paper?

Again, sorry this happened as I never like hearing about collectors getting scammed.

Good luck.

r/
Frank

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by delawarevintage

I purchased a counterfeit 1952 Topps Mantle in a PSA holder. I called PSA before I made the purchase. I wanted to know if the card was stolen. The PSA rep said they don't have that information but make sure the Serial numbers match up. Of course they do. Why was I not informed about the scam. Asking questions should have raised a red flag with the PSA rep. I would have avoided the deal with any kind of warning. The president of PSA implied that I was an idiot and how dare I blame his rep. Really? Any suggestions as to what I should do?

How did you acquire the card? Ebay, dealer, etc?

Can you post scans as well?

Tony

[delawarevintage]

Originally Posted by e107collector

How did you acquire the card? Ebay, dealer, etc?

Can you post scans as well?

Tony

I'm new at this. Not able to post pictures at this time. I am more interested in why PSA would not give me more information when I called before purchasing this card. They had all the information I needed to know. Mike

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by delawarevintage

I'm new at this. Not able to post pictures at this time. I am more interested in why PSA would not give me more information when I called before purchasing this card. They had all the information I needed to know. Mike

It's possible that the serial number that you gave them is linked to an authentic PSA graded Mantle.

Without knowing all the facts, someone may have swapped out the authentic Mantle out of the PSA holder, and replaced it with a fake card.

You also may have a fake PSA slab and flip.

Where did you get the card, and how did you pay for it?

Tony

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by delawarevintage

I'm new at this. Not able to post pictures at this time. I am more interested in why PSA would not give me more information when I called before purchasing this card. They had all the information I needed to know. Mike

If you have a friend with a digital camera you can post pictures.
That would make it a lot easier for people here to help you.

[vintagetoppsguy]

As much as I dislike PSA, I'm not sure why you think any of this is their fault. There are probably many fakes out there with that same serial number.

I'm going to buy a used Chevy Tahoe. Let me call General Motors to see if it was reported stolen.

[FrankWakefield]

If the question was, "PSA, is this card # stolen?"; and if their answer was "No", then you have nothing to be upset with about what PSA did. They don't provide any service at all to potential buyers, and they knew not of the card being stolen.

Take some personal responsibility for the situation in which you've gotten yourself. Some lessons... be knowledgeable about what you're buying, buy from a reputable or trustworthy source, have a return policy.

Personally, I'd add be sufficiently knowledgeable about what you're buying that you don't need to rely on third party grading, which can be wrong (or as you've learned tampered with).

[Matthew H]

You want to call the authorities, not the sports authorities. I'm asuming,since you paid cash, you probably acquired the card in person. I'd do something, in person, but that's just me.

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by delawarevintage

I'm new at this. Not able to post pictures at this time.

Use the same method you use when posting your cards on EBAY.

"Introduction...I have lived in Delaware all my life and have always been a Phillies fan. I am fortunate enough to have turned my hobby into a business. And now with over 25 years experience in the sports card industry, I have developed a reputation for being fair and honest with great connections nationally."

Your introduction of being fair and HONEST is currently in question.

Good job David. Curious to see what his response will be (if he ever responds).

r/
Frank

[Wite3]

Surprised you cannot post a picture since all your ebay listings have pictures. This now sounds really fishy!

Joshua

[Jaybird]

Looks like he just dismantled his website?

www.delawarevintage.com

I'm just getting error messages all over the page. Alien abduction?

[Cardboard Junkie]

Aloha! "Bookem Danno!"

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jaybird

Looks like he just dismantled his website?

www.delawarevintage.com

I'm just getting error messages all over the page. Alien abduction?

Part of it is still up but there is something Rotten in the State of Denmark Delaware.

[CW]

We will likely never hear back, but I am very curious to hear if this was a Craigslist sale, and if Craigslist was mentioned at all to PSA. Although I wouldn't lay any blame on PSA, I would HOPE that if anyone called them and mentioned the word "Craigslist" that they (PSA) would tell the potential buyer to run away as quickly as possible. This should be standard procedure.


And perhaps even a little bit ironic, Delware Vintage has a PSA graded '52T Mantle in his banner.....

Originally Posted by delawarevintage

I purchased a counterfeit 1952 Topps Mantle in a PSA holder. I called PSA before I made the purchase. I wanted to know if the card was stolen. The PSA rep said they don't have that information but make sure the Serial numbers match up. Of course they do. Why was I not informed about the scam. Asking questions should have raised a red flag with the PSA rep. I would have avoided the deal with any kind of warning. The president of PSA implied that I was an idiot and how dare I blame his rep. Really? Any suggestions as to what I should do?

Nothing but learn a lesson. It's PSA for craps sake. Again I will say that they are the worst grading company out there. You really have to know your cards before buying a PSA slabbed card. A lot of repro's and badly graded cards out there by them. They should be voted off the island. Whooops wrong show