1931 Babe Ruth Autograph Ball--Traced Over--JSA

Wymers Auction · #1 06-18-2012, 03:51 AM

Looking at the connection between the first b and a and the large loop in the second b does anyone think it is real anyway? Even traced over there should not be so big of a loop on that b right? I do not understand authenticating traced overs the original could have been traced on the ball in pencil and then gone over.

JimStinson · #2 06-18-2012, 08:52 AM

Forgive me for chiming in on what may be a controversial subject but in my opinion a "trace over" has no value. Mainly because of the question "What is being traced over ?" most of the time its an actual autograph that has faded badly, but once the traceover is applied who knows? I have examined many baseballs especially Babe Ruth on which someone way back when just had drawn Ruth's signature on a baseball and presented it as a gift. Back in the 1930's and 1940's , the ball itself would have had more value than the autograph, so was not a malacious act. The family then kept the baseball for years thinking it was real and it never was. Also many Mrs Babe Ruth signed baseballs , when she was signing for him would appear real if traced over. So what makes a traceover worthless is you never would know what was being traced over if anything. There may be a market for them I don;t know so if someone somewhere is willing to buy one, a traceover would have value but in my office a traceover is always filed in the wastebasket
__________________________
Sign up for my mailing list Vintage autographs for sale daily.PM me with your e-mail address

mr2686 · #3 06-18-2012, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimStinson

Forgive me for chiming in on what may be a controversial subject but in my opinion a "trace over" has no value. Mainly because of the question "What is being traced over ?" most of the time its an actual autograph that has faded badly, but once the traceover is applied who knows? I have examined many baseballs especially Babe Ruth on which someone way back when just had drawn Ruth's signature on a baseball and presented it as a gift. Back in the 1930's and 1940's , the ball itself would have had more value than the autograph, so was not a malacious act. The family then kept the baseball for years thinking it was real and it never was. Also many Mrs Babe Ruth signed baseballs , when she was signing for him would appear real if traced over. So what makes a traceover worthless is you never would know what was being traced over if anything. There may be a market for them I don;t know so if someone somewhere is willing to buy one, a traceover would have value but in my office a traceover is always filed in the wastebasket
__________________________
Sign up for my mailing list Vintage autographs for sale daily.PM me with your e-mail address

+1

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
The Bambino? Is this is an authentic Babe Ruth autograph?	thenavarro	Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports	18	06-03-2012 09:10 PM
You've got to see this!!! "Medium" channels Babe Ruth and has him sign ball. ON EBAY!	BrandonG	Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used	35	02-09-2012 10:22 AM
Babe Ruth Ball?	Archive	Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used	4	08-21-2007 04:15 PM
Babe Ruth Single Signed OAL Barnard Ball	Archive	Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T	0	07-26-2007 11:00 AM
Original photo of Babe Ruth - 1931	Archive	Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T	0	04-02-2007 09:41 AM