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Old 06-08-2012, 01:59 PM
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Like I said, I'm sure that the right solvent could loosen the ink on anything. But look at how hazy the ink is on the cards shown as examples of 'storage transfers' and how damaged the 2nd card looks to boot--like a stain you'd be hard-pressed to identify if you didn't know it was a SC back image--readily distinguished from the crisp ghosts we are used to seeing.

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Adam, agree.

Something beyond the natural environment, time etc. was involved to create such cards like the Polar Bear card Tim posted. Not saying it was done on purpose or anything just something got to those cards beyond natural storage circumstances IMO.

As I said prior been thru thousands of these and other tobacco issues from the era found every way under the sun, but have yet to ever see or peel away another card to see the traces of the card on top.

Then there’s the fundamental question I asked earlier…..where are all the ghost fronts of ball players, flags, fish etc. on the backs of these cards?

Seems to me this natural occurring set of conditions would also render copies of fronts on backs not just backs on fronts….

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Then there’s the fundamental question I asked earlier…..where are all the ghost fronts of ball players, flags, fish etc. on the backs of these cards?

Seems to me this natural occurring set of conditions would also render copies of fronts on backs not just backs on fronts….

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On back....though maybe this one doesn't count since it's a scrap?


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Scrap..Leon... wouldn't count that like the above not a production card but very cool and love seing it!

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I have seen a few wet sheet transfers of front players, these appear to be faded/blurrier then the printed reverse ghosts like Leon's.



Iggyman posted this scrapbook sheet a while ago.

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This is one of the best threads i have read in a while.....

I stick to my conclusions.....there are a small amount that did NOT occur at the factory....but most did......

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Hi Guys,
I'm at the coast so I can't post any pictures, but I think both occurred... I picked up a collection of T205's,06's, and Contentnea's from both series and several of the T205's have Contentnea transfers from storage .... Will post when I get home. Be well Brian

Ps The collection also included quite a few Old Mill's with some pretty strong transfers...
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Like I said, I'm sure that the right solvent could loosen the ink on anything. But look at how hazy the ink is on the cards shown as examples of 'storage transfers' and how damaged the 2nd card looks to boot--like a stain you'd be hard-pressed to identify if you didn't know it was a SC back image--readily distinguished from the crisp ghosts we are used to seeing.

I am in the very small minority, I guess, that just doesn't like blurred or slurred or out fo focus images. For those who like them, I say "great! More power to you!" but give me a nice in focus, sharp register, creaseless prewar card any day. I will say that Adams' Obak Moser with the "ghost" on the back is a great card though. (I own one CJ which looks like a PSA 7 but is psychedelic with an off-register image, but that's the only one I want and I'll probably sell it off someday).
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