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[The Cardboard Fan]

Dead thread: I am reposting in the proper B/S/T section.

Thanks to all those who responded initially and thanks for your patience as I get used to this site.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Good luck with your quest. Your grading criteria for everything post-war would make for a very nice collection. If you go with "true" rookie cards for pre-war, 6's will be an impossibility in more cases than not. If you are talking "mainstream" rookie cards like 1933 Goudeys and Cracker Jacks, etc., it may be possible but quite expensive.

If you have any specific questions, I spent 10 years doing this type of collection, just PM me.

BTW Michael, just noticed that you are in the Orlando area as well, just moved here last summer from NJ.

[The Cardboard Fan]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Good luck with your quest. Your grading criteria for everything post-war would make for a very nice collection. If you go with "true" rookie cards for pre-war, 6's will be an impossibility in more cases than not. If you are talking "mainstream" rookie cards like 1933 Goudeys and Cracker Jacks, etc., it may be possible but quite expensive.

If you have any specific questions, I spent 10 years doing this type of collection, just PM me.

BTW Michael, just noticed that you are in the Orlando area as well, just moved here last summer from NJ.

Yes I most definitely will stick to my criteria standards for post-war. I may have to reevaluate pre-war as I start to make a move on that section of my PC. I see there are a decent number of 5 grade 33 Goudeys available but selection of 6's are rarer.

For now I would be collecting the "mainstream" RC designated stuff 33 Goudey, 34 Goudey, 39 Play Ball, etc. but I have aspirations to one day get into the first appearance cards if I ever am in a situation to afford it.

I moved down here almost 2 years ago from Atlanta.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by The Cardboard Fan

I am slowly working on a PSA graded HOFer RC collection that consists of grades of 6+ for pre-war vintage(I know some I will not be able to afford or even find), 7+ for post-war vintage, and due to larger availability either 9 or 10 on modern just depending on the pop reports and how bloated the prices are. All cards in my PC will be in the new PSA slabs. I am not opposed to considering old PSA slabs, SGC, BVG/BGS, even GAI in certain instances but keep in mind price wise that I will be crossing them over. I am willing to trade (once my wife and I settle into our new house in February) or purchase if priced right and as my funds permit of course. Let me know what you have within my needs and we can go from there.

Current PC: Still to be scanned
1961 Topps #141 Billy Williams RC - PSA NM 7
1977 Topps #144 Bruce Sutter RC - PSA NM-MT 8
1982 Donruss #405 Cal Ripken RC - PSA MT 9
1982 Fleer #176 Cal Ripken RC - PSA MT 9
1982 Topps #21 Bob Bonner RC/Cal Ripken RC/Jeff Schneider RC - PSA MT 9
1983 Donruss #277 Ryne Sandberg RC - PSA MT 9
1985 Donruss #438 Kirby Puckett RC - PSA MT 9
1988 Fleer #539 Tom Glavine RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1989 Score #645 Randy Johnson RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1990 Fleer Update #87 Frank Thomas RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1991 Upper Deck Final Edition #2F Pedro Martinez RC - PSA GEM-MT 10

To be submitted for crossover:
1964 Topps #541 Rookie Stars/Phil Roof/Phil Niekro RC - SGC NM-MT 8

Incoming:
1988 Score #638 Tom Glavine RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1989 Bowman #266 John Smoltz RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1989 Topps Traded #41T Ken Griffey Jr. RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1990 Leaf #300 Frank Thomas RC - PSA GEM-MT 10


Thanks for the look,

The Cardboard Fan

it costs 5 dollars to get a new psa slab from an old one...and if you are crossing over a few cards at the same time than postage really doesn't matter...so not sure you need to talk about 'old psa' slabs versus new as its just 5 bucks I believe in terms of costs..

[h2oya311]

Best of luck w/ your collecting goals! Like Phil, above, I have been working on my HOF rookie collection for about 10+ years and am constantly needing to move some of the more "common/liquid" material when life takes precedence or when an esoteric one-of-a-kind type card surfaces. I probably have a few things that would fit your needs.

Take a look at my imageevent website below (on my signature) or email me if you ever want some advice.

Enjoy the journey!!

[The Cardboard Fan]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

Best of luck w/ your collecting goals! Like Phil, above, I have been working on my HOF rookie collection for about 10+ years and am constantly needing to move some of the more "common/liquid" material when life takes precedence or when an esoteric one-of-a-kind type card surfaces. I probably have a few things that would fit your needs.

Take a look at my imageevent website below (on my signature) or email me if you ever want some advice.

Enjoy the journey!!

You have an amazing collection. Beyond anything I could hope to do I see your focus has been on first appearance including the minor league cards etc. that is stunning. I will definitely be in touch with you in the future.

[Stetson_1883]

Feel free to check out my store below. Good luck!

[The Cardboard Fan]

Originally Posted by Stetson_1883

Feel free to check out my store below. Good luck!

You have a number that fall within the parameters of my PC. Some I can't afford at the moment but a couple are within range of something I could move on now. I would have to reslab but no worries on that. I will PM you once I figure out what I might want.

Thanks,

[The Cardboard Fan]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

it costs 5 dollars to get a new psa slab from an old one...and if you are crossing over a few cards at the same time than postage really doesn't matter...so not sure you need to talk about 'old psa' slabs versus new as its just 5 bucks I believe in terms of costs..

Thank you, I know the costs are not overwhelming but as mentioned first preference will be the new slabs. I will consider the others but there are additional costs involved grading, shipping, insurance, etc. as well as the costs for PSA membership I believe if I am going to grade with them. That I have to check the specifics on.

[CW]

Originally Posted by The Cardboard Fan

Thank you, I know the costs are not overwhelming but as mentioned first preference will be the new slabs. I will consider the others but there are additional costs involved grading, shipping, insurance, etc. as well as the costs for PSA membership I believe if I am going to grade with them. That I have to check the specifics on.

Just a few tips.... you do not have to be a member to submit to PSA. Many folks take advantage of the free submissions that come with the membership and may choose to become a member for that reason. There is a limit to the value of the card on the free submissions, though.

Also, to get a card from an old holder into a new holder all you have to do is pay $5 for a "reholder". In this case, no additional grading is done by PSA.

While this type of thread may be better suited for the "Buy/Sell/Trade" forum, we will let you slide if you post some scans or pics of some of your cards.

[The Cardboard Fan]

Originally Posted by CW

Just a few tips.... you do not have to be a member to submit to PSA. Many folks take advantage of the free submissions that come with the membership and may choose to become a member for that reason. There is a limit to the value of the card on the free submissions, though.

Also, to get a card from an old holder into a new holder all you have to do is pay $5 for a "reholder". In this case, no additional grading is done by PSA.

While this type of thread may be better suited for the "Buy/Sell/Trade" forum, we will let you slide if you post some scans or pics of some of your cards.

Good to know about PSA. I thought I posted in the B/S/T perhaps a mod can move this there?. Soon as we settle into our new house in a few weeks I'll be able to get caught up scanning.

[CW]

Originally Posted by The Cardboard Fan

Good to know about PSA. I thought I posted in the B/S/T perhaps a mod can move this there?. Soon as we settle into our new house in a few weeks I'll be able to get caught up scanning.

Cool, it's always nice to see others' collections. No biggie about moving it. Good luck with the collection!

[Mountaineer1999]

Good luck Michael. I wanted to try this but after considering cost I decided any card of the player manufactured during their playing career would have to do. It'll be fun to follow your process if you keep this post updated.

Good luck!

[The Cardboard Fan]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1999

Good luck Michael. I wanted to try this but after considering cost I decided any card of the player manufactured during their playing career would have to do. It'll be fun to follow your process if you keep this post updated.

Good luck!

Yeah there are some such as the 51 Bowman Mantle and 54 Topps Aaron that I will not be able to afford any time soon especially in the conditions I want. Never the less I plan this to be my hobby for years and years to come.

Thanks

[bcbgcbrcb]

Just one piece of advice that I will share with you, if you feel that ultimately you will be looking for the earliest collectible for each pre-war HOF'er, wait until you can afford that item for each rather than buying more mainstream and continually upgrading from there. I did a lot of upgrading over the years and found that I lost money more times than not when I had to sell the old card.

[The Cardboard Fan]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Just one piece of advice that I will share with you, if you feel that ultimately you will be looking for the earliest collectible for each pre-war HOF'er, wait until you can afford that item for each rather than buying more mainstream and continually upgrading from there. I did a lot of upgrading over the years and found that I lost money more times than not when I had to sell the old card.

Yeah I wouldn't be doing any upgrading. I'm getting what I want up front or waiting. I'm starting with the RC's though.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by The Cardboard Fan

I am slowly working on a PSA graded HOFer RC collection that consists of grades of 6+ for pre-war vintage(I know some I will not be able to afford or even find), 7+ for post-war vintage, and due to larger availability either 9 or 10 on modern just depending on the pop reports and how bloated the prices are. All cards in my PC will be in PSA slabs with the new security label. I am not opposed to considering old PSA slabs, SGC, BVG/BGS, even GAI in certain instances but keep in mind price wise that I will be crossing them over. I am willing to trade (once my wife and I settle into our new house in February) or purchase if priced right and as my funds permit of course. Let me know what you have within my needs and we can go from there.

To be submitted for reslab w/ new label:
1961 Topps #141 Billy Williams RC - PSA NM 7
1977 Topps #144 Bruce Sutter RC - PSA NM-MT 8
1982 Donruss #405 Cal Ripken RC - PSA MT 9
1982 Fleer #176 Cal Ripken RC - PSA MT 9
1982 Topps #21 Bob Bonner RC/Cal Ripken RC/Jeff Schneider RC - PSA MT 9
1983 Donruss #277 Ryne Sandberg RC - PSA MT 9
1985 Donruss #438 Kirby Puckett RC - PSA MT 9
1988 Fleer #539 Tom Glavine RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1989 Score #645 Randy Johnson RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1990 Fleer Update #87 Frank Thomas RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1991 Upper Deck Final Edition #2F Pedro Martinez RC - PSA GEM-MT 10

To be submitted for crossover:
1964 Topps #541 Rookie Stars/Phil Roof/Phil Niekro RC - SGC NM-MT 8

Incoming:
1988 Score #638 Tom Glavine RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1989 Bowman #266 John Smoltz RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1989 Topps Traded #41T Ken Griffey Jr. RC - PSA GEM-MT 10
1990 Leaf #300 Frank Thomas RC - PSA GEM-MT 10


Thanks for the look,

The Cardboard Fan

I've found it more practical to take vintage rookies when I can get them, and focus on some of the HOF'er's rarest cards in some of the currently more quiet areas of collecting when I cannot. Example: good luck finding an 1893 Just So Tobacco Cy Young rookie in any grade, let alone a "six." Which is not to say that I don't have some really tough rare ones, such as the 1907 Dietsche Fielding Pose Cobb, the 1907 Wolverine News Portrait Cobb; 1939 V351 Ted Williams, and 1923-24 Exhibit Al Simmons, purely by way of example.

Best of luck in your quest,

Larry

[bcbgcbrcb]

Mike:

Here is one of the more up-to-date lists out there:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...d+baseball+hof

[insidethewrapper]

Phil: I appreciate the list. Your a true hobby man. Sharing data is so unselfish. Thanks.

[bcbgcbrcb]

If you're not so intent on traditional cards, here is another list to consider:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...hall+of+famers

[Kenny Cole]

I guess I have somewhat of a countervailing point of view. I'm not a HOF rookie collector, per se, but I'm a HOF collector with a lot of rookie cards. I think its fair to say that I have at least one period card of almost every HOFer with a card. I think I'm missing Pete Hill (3 known to my knowledge), Willie Foster (maybe 1 single card), Al Spalding (1 card, have the currency), and Selee (1 card, damn you Paul ). If there is no card I'm pretty good on a period photo or something similar.

In any event, I would suggest that you move differently. There are about 10,000,000 cards of all the HOFers from the 1990s on. Every one. They are always available and you can always get them in high grade. That will be true 20 years from now. If you want to do the HOF rookie thing, I would suggest that you think about moving back a bit, and look at cards that aren't quite as easily available. Save your money, think about it, and pick an earlier card that meets your criteria. You can always circle back around and pick up the easy cards.

[The Cardboard Fan]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

I guess I have somewhat of a countervailing point of view. I'm not a HOF rookie collector, per se, but I'm a HOF collector with a lot of rookie cards. I think its fair to say that I have at least one period card of almost every HOFer with a card. I think I'm missing Pete Hill (3 known to my knowledge), Willie Foster (maybe 1 single card), Al Spalding (1 card, have the currency), and Selee (1 card, damn you Paul ). If there is no card I'm pretty good on a period photo or something similar.

In any event, I would suggest that you move differently. There are about 10,000,000 cards of all the HOFers from the 1990s on. Every one. They are always available and you can always get them in high grade. That will be true 20 years from now. If you want to do the HOF rookie thing, I would suggest that you think about moving back a bit, and look at cards that aren't quite as easily available. Save your money, think about it, and pick an earlier card that meets your criteria. You can always circle back around and pick up the easy cards.

The collection for now is really going to be post-war Beckett designated RC's after that I will probably get the RC's from 33 Goudey, 34 Goudey, 39 Play Ball, and 40 Play Ball and maybe the XRC's that exist as well. I have ambition to go after first appearance cards later for all the Old Timers, Negro Leaguers, etc. but that is a long ways down the road for me as I have a lot to accomplish prior.