Help with Goodwin Cobb Blank Back

[Blunder19]

Hey Everyone,

I wanted to ask the board for some help on this cobb... I have some doubts on it being a true blank back.. and if I am going to be a bidder on the card I want to be sure it is not altered.

Here are the concerns:

1) I have never (nor has any other collector I spoke with) seen a non-SLer with a double that has a blank back... So if only Slers are known to exist with a possible 2nd Blank back.. how does the cobb have a second?

Can anyone else provide me with a non southern leaguer example where 2 blank backs have been confirmed?

2) When I look at the scan on Goodwins site... it looks like the back is not smooth.. almost like there is some paperloss... also i see some hints of red around the top right of the back and the middle left of the back...

Do you think this card could have been skinned from a Sweet Cap back and made its way past SGC?

I have confirmed the same concerns with some of my collector friends... Any information on the above is greatly appreciated.

[wonkaticket]

That card to me does not look right to much hair on that back.....unless I could hold that card out of the holder I would put my wallet back in my front pocket.

Just my two cents Jamie for what ever that's worth and in today's economy I think its trading at about 1.2 cents as of Friday.

Cheers,

John

[Cardboard Junkie]

Seems a little fishy to me. I would want to examine it raw, see what the thickness feels like, and the texture of the back. But I'm not a bidder.

[iwantitiwinit]

I'm bidding on a few cards in this auction and I passed right over the Cobb. It just doesn't look right. It looks as if its two cards pressed together to me. The areas that are missing printing on the front don't look like normal blank areas that result after chipping. To me it appears as if the front was skinned off and affixed to a blank. Given what I expect the top bid to be I don't feel it worth the risk, however, if you don't crack it out of the slab it'll hold it's value I suspect.

[Rob D.]

If that card was a Lajoie and not a Cobb, I would not bid on it.

[Ladder7]

Stunned, SGC slabbed it... Heh, tough economic times.

[calvindog]

I'm going to win this card cheap!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

If that card was a Lajoie and not a Cobb, I would not bid on it.

Rob, excellent way to describe your reluctance to bid.

[atx840]

I was going to post a similar thread after talking to Jamie but as I was doing a bit of research I've come across a second Chance yellow blank back. Both are super prints. Waiting for scans.

I too believe its sketchy, if the fake Magie's got by then its possible someone could remove the entire back ad and get it slabbed. I'd hold off.

[atx840]

It would be nice to hear the history of this one, I'm told a boardmember found the original blank Cobb in an antique (?) shop as a common...this one could have been glued in a notebook way before blanks brought a premium.

As John mentioned the few I've owned have all been smooth without back issues. I'm sitting on a beach a few mojitos deep and don't have access to my scans...this one will have to do.

[wonkaticket]

I hear the words blank back, scrap book, back damage, antique shop all in the same sentence and my defenses are up.

However for me what are the chances a blank back gets put into a scrap book and the blank back has nothing to do with its removal and the damage seen is just simple damage to an already blank backed card? Add that with the fact the AH description mentions nothing of the damage to the back…..yet knows this new scrap book story.

Not trying to beat on the board members card all could be 100% true…and I would hope you guys would voice the same thoughts if it was my card or anyone else’s nothing personal here I happen to like the consignor as well.

Cheers,

John

P.S. Chris time to reach for another one of those mojitos!

[oldjudge]

If you get bored of the mojitos

[Gradedcardman]

Its a very nice card in my opinion. I saw it before it was graded and after it was graded. A very nice card that has been in the owners collection for quite awhile and who also happens to be very knowledgeable about T-206's in all capacities.

I had the chance to buy it but decided on a nice group of PD 42's. Oh decisions decisions !!!!

[Leon]

Due to this thread the auction house sent the Blank Backed Cobb back into SGC for a review. They cracked the card and re-examined it extremely closely. Their finding upon review is that the card is 100% legit. It is a blank back and not skinned. There is some, what looks to be scrapbook residue, but otherwise it is a perfectly good card. This is breaking news from a call I just received from Joe T. at the White Plains show. Good luck to anyone going for the card.