FYI....RED CROSS (T215-1) checklist......UPDATED

[tedzan]

The RED CROSS (T215-1) set consists of 96 cards. It is comprised of T206 subjects from the 150/350 series, 350-only series, 350/460 series,
and 460-only series. These cards were most likely issued in 2 series....1st series of 48 (or 36) subjects in 1910....the 2nd series of 48 (or 60)
subjects in early 1912.

The T215 cards were printed in New York City (as most of that era's T-cards), shipped to the Lorillard plant (Factory #10) in Jersey City (NJ),
and inserted in the Red Cross tobacco products. A large find of Red Cross cards occurred some years ago in the Louisiana area.


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This list of 96 cards is a work in progress. Some uncertainty exists with respect to the T215-1 cards. However, a 96-card "complete" set of
the T215-1's "cousins", the "PIRATE" Tobacco set, has been confirmed. By cross-referencing the RED CROSS set and the "PIRATE" set (with
several exceptions in team identifications), a close match exists between the fronts of these two White-Bordered, Brown-Captioned sets.


Ames (hands above head)
Baker
Ball
Bender (trees)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Byrne (St Louis)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (trophy)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Collins (A's)
Conroy (bat)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Crawford (bat)
Cree
Davis (A's)
Devore
Donlin (bat) (Pittsburg).............traded Feb 17, 1912
Doolan (bat)
Doolan (fielding)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Doyle (portrait)
Doyle (bat)
Dubuc
Elberfeld (Wash.-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Ford
Fromme
Griffith (bat) (Washington).........traded in Feb 1912
Groom
Hartsel (Toledo).......................acquired by Toledo in Dec 1911
Herzog (New York, NL)..............traded July 22, 1911
Hoblitzell
Hofman
Howard
Huggins (portrait) St Louis NL)....traded Feb 1910
Huggins (hands/mouth)
Hummell
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (both hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Kelley
Konetchy (glove low)
Krause
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Latham
Leifield (bat)
Lord
Magee (bat)
Marquard (portrait)
Marquard (pitching)
Mathewson (white cap)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McGinnity
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove)
Harry McIntyre (Chicago NL)
Matty McIntyre (Detroit)
McLean
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers
Miller
Mowrey (St Louis, NL)...............traded Aug 22, 1909
Mullin (bat)
Murray
Oakes
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Paskert
Pelty (vertical)
Purtell
Quinn
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Sheckard (glove)
Frank Smith (Cincinnati).............traded May 11, 1911
Speaker
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street
Sweeney (New York AL)
Tannehill (Chicago AL)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
Warhop
Wheat
Doc White (pitching)
Willetts
Wilson
Wiltse (portrait)
Wiltse (pitching)
Cy Young (glove)......................UNCERTAIN


I reiterate, this checklist is a work in progress; therefore, I would appreciate any updates to it. Especially, I'm looking for more team changes.....
that are different from the original T206 captions.

Also, posting your T215-1 cards here are surely appreciated.


TED Z

[sreader3]

Hi Ted,

Thanks as always. As you indicate that 150, 350 and 460 subjects are in the Red Cross mix, there is some ambiguity as to which Ball, Camnitz, Lake and Murray subjects are being referenced. Also trying to figure out which 150-only or 150/350 subjects are in play (I don't see any in your checklist, at least at first glance).

Best,

Scot

[DixieBaseball]

Are any of the Minor Leaguer players, like Gabby Street, Al Bridwell, etc. featured with any Minor League teams, or are they all featured with their respective Major league team ? (My understanding is it is Major League)

Thanks, JJ

[FrankWakefield]

Smither, Montreal.... that would be a minor league Red Cross. Mr. Lipset has it with both types, but it isn't on Mr. Zanidkis' list. Mr. Lipset also shows a type 2 card for Elberfeld with a Chattanooga caption.

[DixieBaseball]

Frank - Thanks for the info - I think that is how I recall it as well... Some minor leaguer's mixed in, but not as many as say, the T213-2 set. Elberfeld with Chattanooga yes, but Street and Bridwell with Nashville, no...

[cdn_collector]

And what about Kelley, does anyone know? Presumably if this is a 1910 issue then he's featured with Toronto and not yet with New York.

Can anyone confirm?

Regards,

Richard.

[tedzan]

The Mathewson with the White Cap is the only 150 series subject that I know of has been confirmed.
Ball, Camnitz, and Lake could be 150 subjects. But, I'd bet that they are 350 or 460 series subjects.

Best regards,

TED Z

[Drew]

Originally Posted by sreader3

Hi Ted,

Thanks as always. As you indicate that 150, 350 and 460 subjects are in the Red Cross mix, there is some ambiguity as to which Ball, Camnitz, Lake and Murray subjects are being referenced. Also trying to figure out which 150-only or 150/350 subjects are in play (I don't see any in your checklist, at least at first glance).

Best,

Scot

Hi Scot
According to Mr Lpiset's encycolepda there are no 150 only cards in the t215-set. Also I crossed referenced the four cards you questioned. Here is what I
come up with. Ball Clevleland, Camnitz Pitt arms at side, Lake StL no ball in hand and Murrary NY portrait.
drew

[FrankWakefield]

Richard, Mr. Lipset shows Kelley with a type 2 card with a Toronto caption. I don't know, I've only seen a few Red Cross ballcards, only have one. There are a few mistakes, typos, and omissions in the volumes of The Encyclopedia of Baseball Cards; but most of the stuff in there is right. I'd think there really is a Kelley, Toronto card until it's shown otherwise.