T206 SURVEY.....Sovereign "NO - PRINTS" ? ?

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Posted By: Scot Reader

Ted,

A Donlin (Fielding) Sovereign 150 has surfaced on eBay!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-T206-MIKE-DONLIN-FIELDING-N-Y-GIANTS_W0QQitemZ180131027433QQihZ008QQcategoryZ868 40QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

eBay item number: 180131027433

Not in pristine condition, but a rare bird indeed!

Scot

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

Great going Scot......I had a sneaking suspicion that ole Mike would eventually show up, as all the other 150-only
cards have Sovereign backs.

That leaves only Lundgren (Cubs), Magie, Plank and Wagner from the 150 Series on the the Sovereign "No-Print" list.

Thanks much,

TED Z

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Posted By: Paul S

I own only 2 Sovereigns. Neither on your list.
Good luck with this, Ted.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

Thanks for checking Paul.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

UPDATED......6/16/07

In the 150 Series Lundgren (Cubs), and of course Magie, Plank, Wagner were not printed as Sovereign's.

350 Series..........63 Subjects

Abstein
Adkins
Arellanes
Barbeau
Barger
Becker
Bliss
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Charles
Clark
Clymer
Cross
Davidson
Frank Delehanty
Demmitt (NY)
Dessau
Dorner
Elberfeld (port-Wash)
Engle
Evans
Fletcher
Freeman
Ganzel
Graham (St Louis)
Gray
Groom
Hayden
Hoffman (St Louis)
Hunter
Davy Jones
La Porte
Lattimore
Lord
Lundgren (KC)
Maddox
Maloney
Marshall
Mattern
McAleese
McBride
McElveen
McLean
Milan
Dots Miller
Mullen (port)
Murray (bat)
Myers (bat)
Nattress
Phillippe
Puttman
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm
Schlafly
Schreck
Shannon
Sharpe
Snodgrass (bat)
Starr
Willett

460-only Series..........2 Subjects

Kleinow (Boston)
F Smith (Chi & Boston)


Therefore, a complete Sovereign set comprises.....404 cards

524 - Big 4 - Lundgren (Cubs) - Demmitt & O'Hara (St Louis vars) - 48 So Lgrs - 65 NO PRINTS = 404

TED Z

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Posted By: Paul

Why would Lundgren be in a class by himself?

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Posted By: Scot Reader

Lundgren pitched his final major league game on April 23, 1909--after the 150 series artwork was created but before the 150 series was released. Also, The American Tobacco Company re-released Lundgren (Kansas City) in the 350 series. These facts probably explain why Lundgren (Chicago), unlike most 150/350 subjects, does not appear with Brown Hindu, Sovereign or Sweet Caporal.

It is my view that Lundgren (Chicago) is scarce primarily because it does not appear with these brands; I don't think Lundgren (Chicago) is in short supply with Piedmont 150, for example.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

Scot Reader just said what I was getting ready to tell you. So, I'll just post my picture of the
3 backs he was printed with. The Piedmont 350 and the EPDG are seldom seen with this card.

TED Z