Poll: Is this Cobb legit, or is it a "rotten peach"?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Is it possible both were done by an autopen? It would explain the *slight* differences the owner is claiming. Any other reproduction method would be readily apparent under 7X magnfication.

The tell for me would be the length / positioning of the underscore. Almost impossible to reproduce.

There has never been even a hint of Cobb having an autopen.

[packs]

What about a forger creating an auto pen? I'm having a hard time believing an authentication company can't tell if a pen has made a signature or if a signature was lazer printed.

[RichardSimon]

There was an elaborate report on a web site called Autograph Alert, which outlined in detail how PSA authenticated laser prints as real. All it takes is sloppiness and not bothering to remove the autograph from its holder or plastic sheet.

[travrosty]

You would think their company name was CSI with all the fancy equipment they like to brag about like pro-scopes and spectral comparator machines, but all that is useless if you don't look at it closely with the greatest piece of equipment available - that being your own eyes, up close with an intent to do a complete, thorough job. One of the first steps in authenticating is to make sure its not a preprint, reprint, autopen, laser scan, etc.

Some of those that got passed were still in the frames, with the sticker being placed on the back of the frame. JSA proudly admits on its facebook site that they have no problem authenticating the autograph directly through the frame, so no need to take the item out. They passed an autographed ball still in the sealed cube holder. They claim to have special magnifying equipment that can look through the plexiglass and tell them if it is authentic or not. I still prefer to see the item in person, closeup, with my own eyes, with nothing in the way, i.e. frames, glass, and ballcubes. But that's me. I am sure Richard is the same way.

But if someone comes to a show with a Michael Jordan jersey framed in a 400 dollar frame, and they don't want to take it out, the authentication company has to decide to pass up that piece or decide to take their submission money and authenticate it through the frame. Guess which one they choose?

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by packs

What about a forger creating an auto pen? I'm having a hard time believing an authentication company can't tell if a pen has made a signature or if a signature was lazer printed.

They should also be able to tell if it was an autopen versus a real signature too. Autopens shouldn't be able to fool them. But Cobb never had an autopen, if he did we would see more of these.

But it's neither here nor there as it has been shown there are stray dots that show up on both the original, and the laser printed scan, that means the autograph as well as the background was scanned, and reproduced for the cut and the stray dots were replicated too. It's a scan that was printed on old paper probably and then printed with a modern printer and then cut down irregularly to make it look like it was cut from something. That's my theory. But no word yet from PSA or Donovan, wonder why?