PSA 5 with paper loss?

[Fred]

That's just a HUGE error. On a card like that I would hope they would have gotten it right. Grader had a bad day, submitter had a good day. All in all, I would hope somebody isn't dumb desperate enough to pay for that psa label. I guess it's like many people have stated, a fool and his money...

[bbsports]

I'm sorry to say that graders will see what they want to see & do what they want to do.

[sportscardpete]

Just out of curiosity, why doesn't PSA buy back certain cards that are misgraded? Figure it would be a legal way to get rid of the "evidence".

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

Just out of curiosity, why doesn't PSA buy back certain cards that are misgraded? Figure it would be a legal way to get rid of the "evidence".

There's just way too much 'evidence'.

I really hate to bring up the elephant in the room, but it's very tempting.

Okay....

Have you ever noticed that when a large lot of graded cards arrive in the mail from a major auction house, they are often in nice brand-new, sequentially-numbered holders? Do you think the consigners, who had already decided to consign because they didn't want to mess with the hassle of breaking up their collection into smaller lots, or because they needed 'fast' cash...

...decided they didn't mind the hassle of packing up the cards and shipping to PSA or SGC, getting them back, then sending them to the auction house, and also didn't mind the associated wait time and expense?

I think a lot of these 'WTF!?!?!' cards are part of what I'm describing.

But maybe I'm paranoid - have any of you sent in a card like this Cobb, and had it come back as a '5'? If so, can I mail my cards to you?

[Fred]

Scott, I'd love to throw a bunch of cards in with a card submission like the Hall collection auctioned off by SCP a few years back. Talk about some generous grades and the good fortune to not have a card come back as trimmed or altered (that was obviously trimmed or altered). Yup, would defininitely like to have the benefit of the doubt everytime I threw in a submission....

[old-baseball]

Another example from PSA that SGC wouldn't cross to a 30 - Good because of the paper loss on the front. My experience with SGC in sending cards in is that paper loss, front or back, is going to get a 20 - Fair.



I sent this in thinking at worst it would be an 60 - EX. Didn't see the spot of paper loss on Harder's left shoulder. Sure enough it got a 20.

[3-2-count]

No way that green Cobby should be in a holder higher than a 2 with that back damage.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Fred

Scott, I'd love to throw a bunch of cards in with a card submission like the Hall collection auctioned off by SCP a few years back. Talk about some generous grades and the good fortune to not have a card come back as trimmed or altered (that was obviously trimmed or altered). Yup, would defininitely like to have the benefit of the doubt everytime I threw in a submission....

Okay, so two of us see the elephant. That's more than would admit it seven years ago.

[edhans]

I know I'm getting old, but where the heck is the paper loss on that gorgeous E90-1 Clarke?

[sportscardpete]

Originally Posted by Runscott

But maybe I'm paranoid - have any of you sent in a card like this Cobb, and had it come back as a '5'? If so, can I mail my cards to you?

What I like to think, is that some graders slack off and forget to check for paperloss on the back of the card here and there. I mean, they must process hundreds of cards a day. There has to be some room for error. And there has to be some overgraded cards due to laziness. Come to think of it, I've made mistakes at my job due to the repetitive nature of it.

[dog*dirt]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

What I like to think, is that some graders slack off and forget to check for paperloss on the back of the card here and there. I mean, they must process hundreds of cards a day. There has to be some room for error. And there has to be some overgraded cards due to laziness. Come to think of it, I've made mistakes at my job due to the repetitive nature of it.

This may be very true but even if I graded hundreds of cards a day a T206 Cobb that had that nice of a front would catch my attention. One would think that a card like that would be graded more accurate.

[egbeachley]