Was this really an 1890 Players League player cabinet?

[bmarlowe1]

The guy below left is the one I think they were claiming is Joe Gerhardt. I don't have anything that's very clear, but based on what I have and pose 185-2 from the OJ book, I would not bet that the auction photo is Gerhardt.

[slidekellyslide]

Agreed Mark..none of those look good...I don't receive the H&S catalogs anymore so I never even saw this lot.

[bmarlowe1]

The photo below left was claimed to be Tom Colcolough. The best comparisons I could find are below center (Pit NL 1894) and right (TSN 12-9-1893). When comparing him the the guy below center, the hairline on the right side is remarkably similar. But, the guy in the auction photo seems to have a longer ear relative to his head size (though the comparison photo dot matrix structure causes loss of detail). The woodcut below right was obviously carefully done and shows the right ear. Opposite ears are usually at least similar. Comparing it to the left ear in the auction photo - it is much smaller vertically. I'd say, the auction photo is not Colcolough.

[slidekellyslide]

I think it would be odd for Colcolough to get his pic taken in Chico, California...born, raised and died in South Carolina...spent every single minute of his playing days on the East Coast...not impossible, but improbable IMO.

[bmarlowe1]

The ebay seller is now claiming the cabinet left is John Clarkson. He isn't.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

The ebay seller is now claiming the cabinet left is John Clarkson. He isn't.

True. Didn't even have to look at his ears.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by Runscott

True. Didn't even have to look at his ears.

Correct, you just have to check for his giant forehead

[HBroll]

I got this email from the seller:


i closed the clarkson auction as per questions about the item 2 emails i received. some observations as per how i do business: 1. my information specifically to these cabinet cards was provided by a well respected auction house that i assume any advanced collector would do business with without hesitation (as per myself i have been involved extensively in the hobby since 1975 when i was 9 years old..over 35 years). 2. the last thing i ever want to do is sell something that is not exactly what i say it is (feel free to review my ebay history as per items sold and as per feedback) 3. i offer 100% money back guarantee on anything i sell. 4. i provide clear multiple scans of all items i sell so the buyer can without a doubt see exactly what they are bidding on. again thanks and take care, jon

thanks howard i do not go on net54 but if you so desire feel free to post my response to this issue. againtatke care and happy thanksgiving, jon

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

The ebay seller is now claiming the cabinet left is John Clarkson. He isn't.

I saw that cabinet right when it got put up on ebay. I didn't think it was Clarkson then, nor I do now. I have looked at it at least 3-5 different times. It never struck me as being very close. Hopefully these miss identifications quit. Nothing against the seller as he is a friend too....but some of his id's are way off. best regards

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Leon

I saw that cabinet right when it got put up on ebay. I didn't think it was Clarkson then, nor I do now. I have looked at it at least 3-5 different times. It never struck me as being very close. Hopefully these miss identifications quit. Nothing against the seller as he is a friend too....but some of his id's are way off. best regards

Yeah, I don't get it. Someone must have sold it to him, telling him it was Clarkson - the seller is a great guy and I have bought plenty of cool stuff from him.

[Fred]

Has anyone brought it to the attention of the seller? I wonder if he has enough integrity to close the (faux Clarkson) auction? Do you think he'd refund the money to the buyer of the first cabinet he sold? I'd sure hope so.