What is a T206 Wet Sheet Transfer???

[GoldenAge50s]

Wonder what ever happened to that huge barrel & High Life gal up top?

[mrvster]

I don't feel so fresh!

[Abravefan11]

Here's another example that shows the transfer happened in storage and not during the printing process.

1) If this would have been caused by a wet sheet transfer the offset is great enough that a second Sweet Cap design should be visible.

2) Like the card that Iggy posted the white border toning shows exactly how the single card and not a sheet was laying on top of the other for a long long time.

[iggyman]

Here are two wet sheet transfers similar to the T206 Ritchey in Tim's post...

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Pound for pound, the Goudey set has the most cards with wet sheet transfers...

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Beater E91-C American Caramel with a wet sheet transfer, can you guess the player? Okay, wrong game for this set...

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And finally, a piece of scrapbook paper which once was holding a T206 card (both front and back or back and front(?)). As you can see, the back clearly transferred onto the paper without the help of a print press operator. Discuss...

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Lovely Day...

[atx840]

Originally Posted by iggyman

That is one rare 649 OP

[Blunder19]

has anyone seen a transfer like this? With the name making it onto the back? I have never seen one of these before this card... wondering if there are others out there like it..

[steve B]

I love that scrapbook paper! I've got to think it transfered over time, or because of the glue used.

To cover a few points raised.

Leon- the Meusel with the complete transfer of the front is probably a transfer. For me a tough call being black ink, but it's a strong enough transfer I'd say yes.

I didn't mean to say that all black transfers happened after production, just that I've become less enthused by them after having a black stamp printed in the 1880's leave a pretty solid transfer on another in the mail between England and here.

Mrvster - I don't quite get what you're calling me out on.

Anyway, any printing error/variation/anomaly absolutely should be taken card by card. And that examinaton should be done with an understanding of the printing process and materials used. And unless you specialize that means understanding multiple processes. Leons Meusel was probably not lithographed. I'd have to see it or another from the same set to be sure, but one of the typography processes would be a safe bet. The black mark on the left is the initial clue.

The Chance is very impressive, and obviously all factory. It's a wonderful example of a card from a sheet used to make the initial adjustments to the press.

For each color pass the plate for that color needs to be put into place, and a few sheets run to adjust the alignment of the plate and registration with other colors or other sides and to make sure the ink and water are flowing evenly. As you can see from the Chance and Leons multi back, they'll use up just about any sheet of the right size and weight paper. So the Chance is most likely among the first 5-10 cycle backs printed. And I could probably make a good argument for it being from the first sheet.

I've collected printing errors in general since roughly 1980, most of the ones I have are more modern as I've always been on a tight budget. I've found examples of nearly all the problems that can happen in production. There's a few I haven't been able to buy (1972 topps printed with the back on the front and front on the back of the cardboard) And a few that I haven't seen an example of. And I'm always learning new things and adjusting my thoughts on some others.

And I'll show you a real puzzler. I think the price is a bit high, but this Cobb has a red transfer from something. The odd thing is I've looked through the gallery and can't find a T206 that matches the red shadow. Scrap? Transfer from some other set? transfer from an unlisted card?
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I'll start the experiments on the beater. First up, just plain pressure. I can get to probably a couple tons in the home shop, maybe a touch more. For much more than that I'd have to call in a favor from one oft he shops I know. After that Alcohol, then solvents.

Steve B

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

has anyone seen a transfer like this? With the name making it onto the back? I have never seen one of these before this card... wondering if there are others out there...

Yes. I had a Schreck with Hayden's name on the bottom of the back. Tried to sell it for a premium, but never got a taker, so I just sold it at a standard price.

[White Borders]

Here's my wet sheet transfer of an SC350-460 for comparison: