Authenticity On These Psa Cards

[ctownboy]

Let me guess,

1) they were on Craigslist and are from California

or

2) you are trying to sell them?

David

[baberuth714]

They are from California and I did not see them on Craigslist I am considering buying them but am very cautious

[Robextend]

Just a hunch, but I think they are all bogus and would stay away.

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by baberuth714

They are from California and I did not see them on Craigslist I am considering buying them but am very cautious

No collection of fake cards is complete without a '33 Goudey Ruth and a '52 Topps Mantle. Ask the seller to dig around - he has them somewhere.

[barrysloate]

If you are not a veteran collector you should never, ever sink the kind of money into what those cards will cost you. Scammers prey on people with lots of money and little knowledge. This looks like the kind of deal that can only have an unhappy ending.

[buymycards]

One of the things that bothers me about these cards is the condition. Look at the right border on the MJ card. There is quite a bit of chipping. No way that this card would grade a 10. Also, and it is difficult to tell because of the scans, on the back of the MJ the bull does not seem to be real sharp, which happens on fake cards.

An 8 for the Cobb also worries me. The back is stained, and from the back view, take a look at the right corners. Way too sharp.

I have had to walk away from several deals that included a fake Jordan. If this was my deal I would walk away from this one also.

Rick

[FrankWakefield]

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[Zach Wheat]

There was a discussion a while back about the slight differences in fonts between a real PSA holder and the fakes on some of the high end cards you've noted. It is hard to spot. It was noted that the spacing between the letters was narrower on fakes. The "0's" also seemed to be a different width and as Jeff noted above the top loop in the R's was different.

Here are two scans of the T206 on a real flip and the one you posted above. Sorry about the poor quality scan but you can still see the difference in spacing between the letters. Maybe someone can post a better quality "real" T206 and it will be easier to see the difference.

The real T206 flip is below; for some reason I can't post bitmap images. Leon or Matt will have to convert the other image and post.

[ScottFandango]

those are the Craiglist Fakes from about (8 months ago)....

very poor Flips IMO...dont see how someone got taken.....

could be the seller got screwed, and he is just trying to screw someone back and recoup som eof his losses....

[Peter_Spaeth]

The spacing on the serial numbers is slightly too close.

I would follow the 5-second rule used in the art world, if you aren't sure after five seconds that it's the real thing, assume it isn't.

[Peter_Spaeth]

PSA does need to confront its security issues. While I suppose anything can be replicated with enough effort, it seems to me that holograms, which they used until perhaps the early 2000s, might help.

[jcmtiger]

This is another Cobb PSA label. I had this graded in California at a show on site grading late 1990's.

Joe

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

PSA does need to confront its security issues. While I suppose anything can be replicated with enough effort, it seems to me that holograms, which they used until perhaps the early 2000s, might help.

I agree, Peter, but the problem is, what do you do with the millions of PSA cards already in the markeyplace? Changed slabs, holograms, a unique font for the labels, would have been great ideas years ago, but now... a little late.

(By the way, this discussion isn't unique to PSA. Any grading company making visible changes faces the same issues.)

[teetwoohsix]

Like calvindog said-there seems to be something funny about the letter R on the flips............compared it to 20 different PSA graded cards I have and the letter R on the ones you are showing look different...I am no expert,just bored.......I wish I had that Cobb(minus the holder,that is)..........

[Abravefan11]

Not 100% but if I had to guess and quote Elaine from Sienfeld:

"Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake!"

[bbcemporium]

All of the fake Aaron RCs coming out of California I've seen or heard of have been PSA 6 or 7. As advised by the others, I would avoid these cards like the plague.

Out of curiosity, what is the background story the seller has given you on the cards?