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Old 06-16-2009, 08:06 AM
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Thanks Brian - this is why SGC is the best in the hobby.

I also would like to reiterate that the dealer in this case has always been top-notch in my experiences and above reproach.

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Old 06-16-2009, 08:12 AM
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The seller is a personal friend of mine, and if I were to make a list of people in the hobby with the most integrity, he would be right at the top.

Beyond being a friend, I've been buying from him for years and have never had a single issue. They simply don't come any better.

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Old 06-16-2009, 08:22 AM
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I know Joe also, and he's top notch. This matter will get resolved.
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:32 AM
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I too can vouch for Joe's integrity.
Been buying & selling to him for years, never an issue.
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:42 AM
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I too will vouch for Joe. I have known him for 15+ years- and have had tons of good and fair transactions- both in person and on the web. There are so many scenarios that could have occurred to bring that card into that holder and end up on ebay. Joe could have bought the card already graded and didn't think twice about listing it- as SGC has such a sterling reputation. I am sure the poster is positive that this is the same card he had- but it is also possible that this card is just very similiar in appearance to the card which had been previously rejected by grading companies. I am sure Joe and SGC will work to get it worked out.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:02 AM
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Kevin - agree 100% about both Joe and SGC. As I have stated, my post was not meant to suggest that they were involved in any wrongdoing. If that is what can be inferred from it, I apologize.

I would agree with you about it possibly being a similar card if it were a T206, but there aren't too many Mothers Bread Plank's out there. I can literally picture the moment I tried to slide the card into a top loader and put that little fold in the bottom right corner. If there are two Mother's bread Plank's out there like that, I will eat my hat.

Either way - I am sure it will be resolved one way or another, and I look forward to buying from this dealer and using SGC's services in the future.

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Better to buy it back at the seller's cost basis (assumed to be lower than what it is listing for) than to have it sell again and raise the basis.
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It's a beautiful card and I'm sure there must be more than one with similar identify features. I trust Joe as much as I trust anyone in this hobby. If Joe tells you something about his card you can believe him. His integrity and reputation in this hobby mean everything to him.
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It's a beautiful card and I'm sure there must be more than one with similar identify features. I trust Joe as much as I trust anyone in this hobby. If Joe tells you something about his card you can believe him. His integrity and reputation in this hobby mean everything to him.
Here here! I have had numerous dealings with Joe over the years. He is honest as they come, always displays integrity, and has schooled me a lot on some of the inner workings of some of the pre-war cards that I've added to my collection.
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From the scan, I surely do not see a badly trimmed card as described in the intial post-- perhaps I am blind. I'll join in the chorus that Joe is as good as they come.
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:16 PM
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Brian,

Who have I "slammed"??? certainly not the seller, who I stated in the first sentence of my very first post is, in my experience, a quality person to deal with?

Did I "slam" SGC in the same post when I said I think they are the best around?

Did I "slam" either SGC or Joe when I reiterated my feelings regarding their professionalism in handling this matter and in any other dealings in subsequent posts?

All I did was tell a story about a card (a very scarce card) that I believe with almost 100% certainty was once mine, and was graded as trimmed by three separate graders. I dont stand to profit in any way from this card being regraded an "A" any more than you do.

I don't care if anyone believes me or not at this point, but really, why in the hell would I make this up? I have been a member of this board since Elliot ran it years ago and before it was even on N54, and I doubt that anyone would categorize me as an attention seeker.

Perhaps I should have just contacted the seller or SGC directly to begin with. Fine, I can accept that, and I apologize if I have created much ado about nothing. However, my only motive was to let people know that there is a high-priced item for sale that may not be what it seems to be.
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Chris never suggested that Joe had done anything wrong, so the "defense" of him (although he deserves all the kudos) is beside the point. The only question raised is whether SGC perhaps mistakenly slabbed a trimmed card.
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:38 AM
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The seller is a personal friend of mine,....

-Al

Although this seller is a personal friend of Al's, I wouldn't hold that against him

I wouldn't hold this instance against him either.


Add me to the list of people who would consider him a really good seller / one who can be trusted.
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Not to pile on here, but the seller is top notch. I have bought and sold with him many times usually without needing any negotiation. One of the easiest people to deal with.
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