The National - What will you be looking for?

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Posted By: Andy

Hi,
I don't post here very often but I read this board every day. I am very excited about this year National. This will be my second time (first was '04 Cleveland).
I am just curious what you guys will be shopping for. I will be looking for a centerpiece to my collection. My office recently won a raffle and my take was 700. Do any of you have any suggestions at what I could look for in that price range. I currently have 0 vintage in my collection, but I would like to turn my collection into that direction.

--Andy

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Posted By: Ken McMillan

E121 series of 120 Yankees, T207 Cubs, and Elmer Miller cards of any type.

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Posted By: Bob

1911 and 1912 Zeenuts, Pacific Coast Biscuits, caramels, caramels, more caramels.

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Posted By: Wimpy

I will be looking for fellow Net54ers, and 49 Leafs, 33 Goudeys, e93s, and other caramel cards that I can get to before Bob.

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Posted By: Jason L

What do you collect? Maybe there's a vintage piece that makes sense as a companion to your non-vintage collection? For instance, if you collect a certain team, maybe a T200 of them would make sense...a decent one should be around for that price.

Also, might suggest a nice low/mid-grade T206 Nap w/bat?!
a truly classic card.

If I were going to the National, I would be on the lookout for tobacco Cubbies...and bringing a few cards for onsite grading.

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Posted By: Alan

I'll be looking for Leon - and when I see him I'm going to tell him how much we all appreciate him organizing the network 54 dinner !!!

Alan

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Posted By: Andy

Thanks for the ideas Jason. I was wondering if there will be lower graded material there. I have thought about a T200 Tigers as I like Cobb.

--Andy

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Posted By: Turner Engle

T205 upgrades, and getting a few cards graded on-site.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

Exhibit cards, boxing cards, Zeenuts, Lefty O'Doul cards I need, etc. I'll consider the trip a success if I can find a dozen tougher commons for my sets.

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Posted By: Dave Haas

I'll be getting some cards graded at the show. How much more does PSA charge for onsite grading?

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Posted By: Turner Engle

nvm

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Posted By: Chad

I hear the National is where the ACTION is!

--Chad

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Posted By: boxingcardman

Or not.

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Posted By: peter chao

Here's a trick worth trying. Get a list of the dealers that will be attending...if you know any of them well, just suggest to them that you can help them unload their stuff.

If you know them really well they might agree to lend you a security pass...then you are in the National for free.

Peter

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Posted By: Vincent

Perhaps I’m nuts, but instead of one centerpiece item; perhaps getting a substantial start on your vintage collection might provide more satisfaction than acquiring just one or two cards. For $700 or so, you could purchase quite afew common ballplayers, in lower grade. There should be a reasonable selection of early tobacco, gum, and candy cards available for under $30 or so. And with the National Show taking place in Cleveland, there may be a greater-than-usual abundance of Detroit Tiger cards, since Detroit is reasonably located within a 2-hours drive from Cleveland. As your vintage collection evolves, you may find that a particular vintage card will establish itself as the centerpiece you seek. For me, it was a 1914/1915 Cracker Jack Ty Cobb card that I set my sights on. The centerpiece changed as each prior target piece was acquired. The hunt certainly adds to the challenge and enjoyment of the hobby. Good Luck to you in Cleveland.

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Posted By: Andy

Vincent,
Thank you for your response. I am mainly a set collector and that may vary well be the way to go. The Cracker Jacks are great cards. I am from the Buffalo area, so I am contemplating putting together a Buffalo Bisons T206 set which should be relatively inexpensive.

--Andy

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Posted By: peter chao

If you are interested in New York stars in general, a good start to a T206 set would be the white and dark cap Mathewsons.

Peter

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Posted By: P Spaeth

FBI agents.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

"Here's a trick worth trying. Get a list of the dealers that will be attending...if you know any of them well, just suggest to them that you can help them unload their stuff.

If you know them really well they might agree to lend you a security pass...then you are in the National for free.

Peter"

Sweet scheme. Did you learn that from watching Spanky and Alfalfa?

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Posted By: Vincent

Andy,

If you are looking for Buffalo team-related vintage cards in particular, I'd like to suggest one of my favorite sets; 1912 C46 Imperial. Some of the Buffalo members included are: "Natty" Nattress, Jake Gettman, Elijah Jones, Louis Brockett, "Lew" McAllister, Joseph Delehanty, John Kissinger, Robert Shaw, John White, Frank Corridon, George Schirm, Bayard Sharpe, William Malarkey, and Willaim Baxter. I may have missed someone(s) too. But the cards are generally not too expensive, and occassionally encountered. I'm not sure which of the players are the toughest to find (and therefore, perhaps much more expensive to purchase). I'm sure there are forum members who are much better educated on this set than I am. Perhaps they would share their insight and wisdom of what to expect to pay for certain cards.

Good luck on your search. It should be a great show.

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Posted By: Dave F

Peter...to quote you...



"Here's a trick worth trying. Get a list of the dealers that will be attending...if you know any of them well, just suggest to them that you can help them unload their stuff.

If you know them really well they might agree to lend you a security pass...then you are in the National for free.

Peter"


I wonder how many other lawyers that live in a million dollar home would have thought of something like this?

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Posted By: Andy

That is why this board is awesome. Vincent, thank you for the suggestion, I have never seen those cards before. I like the fact that they use actual photos of the players. I am going to have to spend some time with my Standard Catalog to come up with a check list of Buffalo players.

Thanks,
Andy

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Posted By: peter chao

Dave,

Have you ever gone to the National early in the morning and wondered why there were so many people still setting up...well now you know.

Peter

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Posted By: Jason L

Ok, so here's an interesting statistic of which the promoters should be made aware!

One-third of this Board (as represented by those who have voted) has never been to the National! (myself included)

Sounds as though they're doing something wrong - need new locations, apparently.

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Posted By: Glyn PArson

Pinkerton Cabinets, That I need.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

NYC!

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Posted By: Richard Masson

A really nice T207 Tinker.

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Posted By: Alan

I agree with Jeff. Is the Javits Center big enough ?

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Posted By: Sean

I wish i could go to the national but i might go to the national in chicago! but which year is going to be that exactly? i hope i will see you guys there if i go

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Posted By: Dustan Hedlin

Next year's National will be in Chicago. I'm already saving up a little at a time. I won't be able to make it to Cleveland this year, so I'm really looking forward to it coming back to Chicago.

Edited to add what I would be looking for:
PSA 3 Walter Johnson T206 Portrait
PSA 4-5 Nap T206 w/bat
Ty Cobb PSA/DNA slabbed auto (check, maybe)

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

I love this:

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Posted By: Dustan Hedlin

Jeff, that's a great Cobb Check. It's very similar to one listed in an ebay store that I've been looking at, but is listed a few bucks higher than I'm hoping to spend.

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Posted By: jeffdrum

I will be looking for

1923-24 Exhibit Jim Bottomley
1923-24 Exhibits in general
E135s
M101-6s
E98 Jack Coombs
W575-2 Wally Schang
1966 Phoenix Candy BATMAN Boxes (slightly OT)
Pinkerton Postcards

Not much. Should I bring two or three hundred dollars?

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Posted By: peter chao

If you have been to numerous card shows and can control your budget, you can ignore this rule.

For the rest of us...leave your credit cards at home.

Peter

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Posted By: boxingcardman

Since you won't find any of that stuff anyhow because I'm gonna grab the exhibits first

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Posted By: leon

#1 priority...to fill the cock bobblehead void in the type collection....Do they have different backs? I better stop here....

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Posted By: DMcD

Cock bobblehead . . the penny just dropped. LOL. This must be the "naughty stuff" Sean was referring to.