1881 Dubuque Rabbits Baseball Team Cabinet Photo --50K

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For Sale- Original 1881 Dubuque Rabbits Baseball Team Cabinet photograph --with 22 year old Charles Comiskey sitting second from right. 16 year old Joe Quinn was asked to join the team in 1881 sitting far left.--The Photo was discovered in St Louis, Missouri, possibly this photograph once belonged to Quinn.
-50k--

[RUKen]

This photo was posted here twelve years ago; the identification of the team and of individual players on the team was disputed by just about everyone who responded. The original thread is here: https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ubuque+Rabbits

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The Photo and price are right----50K


The Photo shows the facts--the disputers have nothing--

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Thousands of people actually believe the Earth is flat.
I wouldn't be able to convince not one with the facts
the Earth is really round.

[Snapolit1]

If you posted it here 12 years ago and it was roundly debunked, why go through the same exercise again? If it is what you say it is, send it to a reputable AH and let them assess it and market it.

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Mainly because a obscure date 1881 was discovered, In Nicholls book Joe Quinn Among the Rowdies, Joe joined the Rabbits in 1881, Comiskey and Joe Quinn are right on dead ringers. I have the PROOF in the Photo, show me your PROOF, besides just opinion's --(I reside in Missouri, you have to show me)

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by RUKen

This photo was posted here twelve years ago; the identification of the team and of individual players on the team was disputed by just about everyone who responded. The original thread is here: https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ubuque+Rabbits

Oh my god — thank you for adding this … truly fascinating.

He’s had this for three decades, disappeared for 12 years, and today he decides to surface looking for $50,000.

Delusional? Maybe. But I respect the commitment to the long game…

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The proof is in the photo, not opinions, I'm shocked some on here claim to be experts and cant except the proof/Facts---- Ill stick to the facts. For the record, Artist HA Jordan was in Business at Dubuque in 1881( photo dated and stamped Dubuque)--so if this Rabbits photo isn't for anyone's collection on Net 54, That's okay. I still like sharing my early Comiskey Photo--maybe we'll see you in Chicago--Bye!

[bigfanNY]

Yes The proof is in the photo. The ears don't match so it cannt physically be Comiskey. Doesn't matter if Comiskey knew this guy or that photographer. What we do know is it is not Comiskey in your photo.
But I understand to a person such as yourself ten a hundred a thousand even TEN THOUSAND NO'S mean nothing....all you need is one person with the means to belive your lie so you can cash in. Damm shame is what it is.

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Sorry the EARS is theory is like FAKE NEWS, sorry too many facts with this photo, its right--tell your EARS experts for me its FAKE NEWS, ------TRUTH doesn't LIE------don't be blinded by FAKE NEWS, Jonathan Damn Shame your EARS expert is bad WRONG on this one-Question- did Comiskey and Joe Quinn ever play Baseball in Dubuque Iowa, Yes or No----- heading to Chicago

[Brent G.]

If it’s the real deal, why is it so hard to sell?

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Good question--First time I decided to take an offer my original 144 year old Dubuque photo to a National, 50K is a lot of money for most collectors--my daughter doesn't want it, or any of my other collectable, already sold my Cobbs, Ruth and Gehrig's, Cap Anson cards, was sad to let them go but we all have to face the future of reality versus being sold at garage sale. ( still have a couple thousand autos and vintage cards need to figure the best way to let them go )--I guarantee this photo is authentic and hopefully can be under another collectors watch for the next 35 years!

[Brent G.]

What date range on those autos?

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Originally Posted by Brent G.

What date range on those autos?

We had our employee write letters to various notorieties many years ago during the last baseball strike, famous movie stars, sports, military, political, etc many are now deceased.--as example he wrote to many Medal of Honor winners, like the flag raiser at Iwo Jima and Desmond Doss as in the movie Hacksaw Ridge--99 percent of autos on Index cards, all in index sized holders, the rest on 8 x 10 photos and letters, I have a numbered inventory, although not completely up to date since I've sold a few through the years.

[bigfanNY]

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Sorry the EARS is theory is like FAKE NEWS, sorry too many facts with this photo, its right--tell your EARS experts for me its FAKE NEWS, ------TRUTH doesn't LIE------don't be blinded by FAKE NEWS, Jonathan Damn Shame your EARS expert is bad WRONG on this one-Question- did Comiskey and Joe Quinn ever play Baseball in Dubuque Iowa, Yes or No----- heading to Chicago

https://news.uga.edu/new-facial-reco...0for%20testing).

So ears is Fake news? Science is wrong about ears being fully formed at birth? Maybe 12 years ago there was some debate. Mostly among people trying to represent their questionable photos, Like yourself here 12 years ago. But Ears is a slam dunk. And we know from your past sales what your guarantee is worth. I hadn't planned on going but it might be worth a trip to Chicago just to witness this live.
As for anyone considering buying an autograph from you. They should be prepared to eat TPG fees when they come back Questionable. This last part is not an opinion unfortunately I made the mistake of believing Tom's guarantee and paid the price.

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Yup you and your Ears Expert (whoever that is are Fake News on this one, and dead wrong ) and just ignorant to the facts, you've been brain washed on this one--please don't get your shorts in a knot, and be mad or jealous just because you'll never own it. -- Heading to Chicago -yes please plan to attend, I welcome you and please bring your ears experts with you (PS: remember no guarantees were ever implied when you asked , only a full refund if not satisfied, I don't owe you a dime, I refunded you the entire $145.00 in full thru PayPal. )

(On the autographs 10k will buy them---)

( Johnathan, I found the email I sent you Pease read again to refresh your memory***I honored my terms in full.**--Quote :P/S Please Note: I can only guarantee a full refund your purchase price of 145.00 if not satisfied upon receiving the card back --if that's not agreeable I will refund your145.00 before I ship the Lebron card-- let me know before I ship the card--thanks again!)

[bigfanNY]

Tom The previous autograph you sold is just sludge under the bridge. Especially since you have taken your shady escapades to new heights. If you really wanted to get proof that that is not Comiskey you could simply submit your photo along with some known Comiskey photos to a company that could uses the technology referanced in my link above to give you a definitive answer. It is after all a ( cough..spit) 50K TEAM PHOTO. surely it's worth the expense to get it certified. No?
Or is it as I stated above just an exercise in finding the
one person with the means that falls for your Guar..en..tee..that it is good. Then they can spend their own hard earned money finding out what it is and who you are...

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Yup, Heading to Chicago or bust--thanks!

[bigfanNY]

Look I know changing someone's mind that is trying to pry someone's hard earned money selling a photo he has been repeatedly told for at least 12 years is NOT WHAT HE SAYS IT IS, Seems like a waste of time. But hear me out. Every time someone stands up and pushes back on this type of nonsense it creates a digital trail. A trail that hopefully will show up and open the eyes, and close the wallet of someone thinking this might be real.
I saw that parts of this 1879 Dabuque team premium were shown 12 years ago look at it for yourselves. The 1879 Dabuque team certainly looks the part of a Small city's semi pro ball club. The 1881 photo is not remotely similar. And is almost certainly not a Traveling semi pro ball club representing a city the size of Dabuque.

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You finally got something right, my photo is 1881 NOT 1879, Radbourne and Gleason were gone, Comiskey was trying to organize a new baseball team in 81, thanks for clearing this up, I've been trying to explain this to the forum, my photo is dated 1881-Thank you. Comiskey, Quinn, Tom Loftus, and Ted Sullivan were still in Dubuque playing baseball. Thanks again!

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You finally got something right, my photo is 1881 NOT 1879, Radbourne and Gleason were gone, Comiskey was trying to organize a new baseball team in 81, thanks for clearing this up, I've been trying to explain this to the forum, my photo is dated 1881-Thank you. Comiskey, Quinn, Tom Loftus, and Ted Sullivan were still in Dubuque playing baseball. Thanks again!

For the baseball historians --this is the 1881 roster for the Rabbits Ted Sullivan took to play the St Louis Browns. FACT, it was said the Rabbits uniforms resembled pajamas.

[bigfanNY]

Posting pictures of some random young man and Labling it Charles Comiskey. Is not cool. Please stop.
You could spend the money and have a reputable company compare the ears and tell you definitely it is not Charles Comiskey.
Or you could simply compare the players in the 1879 photo of the Dabuque team to the players you identify as these same players 2 years later. It's just not them.
You say it is a $50k photo so why wouldn't it be worth a couple hundred bucks to verify?

[bigfanNY]

Make this easier. I already posted a photo of Comiskey from 1879 2 years before. Here is a picture of him from 1883. Ears don't match height don't match on and on. It just isn't him. Born in 1859 Commy was 20 in the 1879 picture and 24 in the 1883 picture. Plenty of other pictures of the St.Louis Browns from 1882 83 84 etc. It might have been harder to find these 12 years ago. But now just to easy to show you are wrong.

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Sorry you still seem to have your shorts in a knot--thanks for photo -the 1881 Dubuque Comiskey photo is heading to Chicago-