Most undervalued HOFers

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Ironically, after a day of fits and insults, you still refuse to answer my question: you can pick one of the two to go out and win a game for you, who are you picking?

Do you seriously not see your own hypocrisy in this?

(By the way, I do disagree with your assertion)

How is it hypocritical to not let you force me into a new position I did not claim? My claim is not whether Perry or Ryan are better. All I said was that they had pretty similar values over their careers, and several people had meltdowns all day over it, even as they can't argue against the claim made. You still refuse to put together an actual argument against my actual claim and are just throwing out insults about how stupid I am because I didn't change my position to be a different position you want me to have so you can argue against this different position instead of the actual opinion I said and hold. You don't see how that makes no sense whatsoever?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

How is it hypocritical to not let you force me into a new position I did not claim? My claim is not whether Perry or Ryan are better. All I said was that they had pretty similar values over their careers, and several people had meltdowns all day over it, even as they can't argue against the claim made. You still refuse to put together an actual argument against my actual claim and are just throwing out insults about how stupid I am because I didn't change my position to be a different position you want me to have so you can argue against this different position instead of the actual opinion I said and hold. You don't see how that makes no sense whatsoever?

This is one way to read what happened today, I guess. Asking you a different question than you raised is not forcing you into a new position. It's asking a question. Just like you are demanding an argument addressing your point, others have just as much right to ask the same of you. And just like you refuse to respond, we have the right not to play within your parameters. This whole thing is because you think you're in charge of a message board discussion.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

This is one way to read what happened today, I guess. Asking you a different question than you raised is not forcing you into a new position. It's asking a question. Just like you are demanding an argument addressing your point, others have just as much right to ask the same of you. And just like you refuse to respond, we have the right not to play within your parameters. This whole thing is because you think you're in charge of a message board discussion.

You absolutely have the right not to argue the claim I made. And I have the right to stick with my actual opinion and not change it to be what you want to argue instead. But you have been insulting me all day for my claim. Read the transcript. You don't have to play, but if you're going to insult me over and over again because of my claim while refusing to actually make an argument against it, that's really weird and not rational. You chose to play when you lost control and went emotionally angry. It is not unreasonable of me to expect people upset over my claim to have a logical argument against my claim.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

You absolutely have the right not to argue the claim I made. And I have the right to stick with my actual opinion and not change it to be what you want to argue instead. But you have been insulting me all day for my claim. Read the transcript. You don't have to play, but if you're going to insult me over and over again because of my claim while refusing to actually make an argument against it, that's really weird and not rational. You chose to play when you lost control and went emotionally angry. It is not unreasonable of me to expect people upset over my claim to have a logical argument against my claim.

Huh? I haven't insulted you for your claim. I disagree with your reliance on some metrics I don't care for, but I didn't insult you for it. The only insults I've made were regarding your crappy attitude. In fact, I willingly concede those metrics show a similar value between the two as those metrics define value.

As I've said before, yet you ignore, I am not emotionally invested in your claim at all. I'm a fan nor collector of either. You are the emotional one here.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Huh? I haven't insulted you for your claim. I disagree with your reliance on some metrics I don't care for, but I didn't insult you for it. The only insults I've made were regarding your crappy attitude.

Okay. I am too stupid to do math or logic, but that has nothing to do with the math or logic involved herein and is disconnected from it. You actually mean attitude when you do this. Gotcha.



After ~200 posts of tantrums about my claim without a single actual argument made against it, is anyone going to posit one? No?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by G1911

Okay. I am too stupid to do math or logic, but that has nothing to do with the math or logic involved herein and is disconnected from it. You actually mean attitude when you do this. Gotcha.







After ~200 posts of tantrums about my claim without a single actual argument made against it, is anyone going to posit one? No?

For someone who refuses to be pushed into making different claims than you made, you sure put a lot of words in my mouth.

The only tantrum I see is yours. You made a claim several people disagreed with and got your panties in a bunch demanding people argue with you about it.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

For someone who refuses to be pushed into making different claims than you made, you sure put a lot of words in my mouth.

The only tantrum I see is yours.

Do you have an actual argument or counter claim yet?