Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I only wonder where the police start in solving this heinous crime. Trying to get a positive id on one or all the perps, I suppose.

I'm not a criminal justice expert, so I can only surmise based on wild guesses and my zero background knowledge of how these investigations work.

But it does seem like identifying the goons based on the video would be a key step. With any luck, they have other security footage from elsewhere in the venue showing other angles, and maybe with a little better resolution. The only trouble, of course, is that unless these goons are already known to the authorities, about their only hope is some sort of a database, or else someone from the public identifying them.

If that doesn't pan out, then it seems like it's a waiting game. Waiting for someone to notice one of these cards somewhere. Or for one of the goons to try to sell a big chunk of them at a venue that recognizes these cards.

Seems like one other potential is hoping the goons get greedy and turn on each other because they can't agree on an equitable allocation of their ill-gotten gains. Or some jilted lover who turns them in. Seems like that's how most of the accounting frauds get caught.

[judsonhamlin]

Originally Posted by raulus

I'm not a criminal justice expert, so I can only surmise based on wild guesses and my zero background knowledge of how these investigations work.

But it does seem like identifying the goons based on the video would be a key step. With any luck, they have other security footage from elsewhere in the venue showing other angles, and maybe with a little better resolution. The only trouble, of course, is that unless these goons are already known to the authorities, about their only hope is some sort of a database, or else someone from the public identifying them.

If that doesn't pan out, then it seems like it's a waiting game. Waiting for someone to notice one of these cards somewhere. Or for one of the goons to try to sell a big chunk of them at a venue that recognizes these cards.

Seems like one other potential is hoping the goons get greedy and turn on each other because they can't agree on an equitable allocation of their ill-gotten gains. Or some jilted lover who turns them in. Seems like that's how most of the accounting frauds get caught.

These investigations take time. Time to gather all the facts to write an affidavit in support of any search warrants for geofence and/or cell phone data, time to get the warrants approved by a prosecutor, time to get them to a judge who has to read and approve them, time to serve the internet and phone carriers who own and service the nearest cell towers and have them respond and then try to sift through the data to exclude everyone else’s phone records. You know, all that pesky 4th Amendment stuff.
Facial recognition is not all that and unlimited breadsticks- there have been numerous and legitimate false arrest lawsuits where an arrest was based solely on facial identification.
Have some faith in and patience with the local law enforcement departments working this.
And the whole ‘flee to Mexico’ thing is a chimera. The cards are more likely to be, say, in Texas or Illinois or Kentucky as anywhere else. Rumor even has it that there are Latino citizens and residents in all 50 states, so…