FS: Rare 1910 E-UNC Ty Cobb -- New Card Added

[Leon]

Ya'll can say what you want to, in this thread, but you have to obey the rule near the top of every page, concerning your full name, or edit your comment out. Thanks

[notfast]

So was this a case of someone posting “sold” to a 2 month old for sale ad and then seller saying “yeah price has changed” or was there some more communication?

I mean I saw this on Facebook groups by the “buyer” so I’d have assumed nt was paid for and in hand but I guess that wasn’t the case either.

[joshuabotnick2]

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[notfast]

Originally Posted by joshuabotnick2

Hey, I was the one who bought it. I bought the card originally for $3200 ( its original listing price ). The card was paid for for two days, then the deal was backed out of by the seller and relisted for $12.7k (now $12.5k).

Interesting.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by joshuabotnick2

Hey, I was the one who bought it. I bought the card originally for $3200 ( its original listing price ). The card was paid for for two days, then the deal was backed out of by the seller and relisted for $12.7k (now $12.5k).

Yeaaa 2 months later ooookay

[bandrus1]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Yeaaa 2 months later ooookay

Why are you chiming in if you do not know the details? Was payment accepted?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by bandrus1

Why are you chiming in if you do not know the details? Was payment accepted?

There had been a. RASH of posters with WAY too much time on their hands, reeking of desperation, trolling the bst threads looking for underpriced cards from months back. I had a thread up for a card for 850 and the last sale was 3000. Seems suspicious.

It's hard to cheat and honest man, and a pricing error could have even occurred.

[bandrus1]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

There had been a. RASH of posters with WAY too much time on their hands, reeking of desperation, trolling the bst threads looking for underpriced cards from months back. I had a thread up for a card for 850 and the last sale was 3000. Seems suspicious.

It's hard to cheat and honest man, and a pricing error could have even occurred.

So no, you can't answer the question

[trambo]

Originally Posted by joshuabotnick2

Hey, I was the one who bought it. I bought the card originally for $3200 ( its original listing price ). The card was paid for for two days, then the deal was backed out of by the seller and relisted for $12.7k (now $12.5k).

Still waiting for you to tell the rest of the story. Sale wasn't blindly cancelled. I saw the card posted in multiple FB groups for sale or trade (for a Mantle). You were trying to flip the card before it was shipped or in hand. My guess is seller saw the posts. You can fill in the blanks from there.

Not saying seller shouldn't have still shipped because a deal is a deal. I am saying that it isn't as simple as you're stating.

Also, here's a link where seller was on your podcast 11 months ago. Draw whatever conclusion you will but I'd guess seller was trying to help you out by doing that. You clearly didn't have his best interest when you saw the card he posted even knowing that he had helped you. Many of us would've (and have) said something to the seller if they're buddies of ours in situations like this. You clearly didn't care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKwA-FIA0l0

Sorry Josh. You're not in the right on this one, either.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It feels like that old Paul Harvey radio show -- and now you know..... the REST of the story.

[trambo]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It feels like that old Paul Harvey radio show -- and now you know..... the REST of the story.

I doubt I'll be able to get Paul Harvey's voice out of my head now. Real cool.... haha!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by trambo

I doubt I'll be able to get Paul Harvey's voice out of my head now. Real cool.... haha!

American institution. Here's a relatively early photo. Good DAY.

[joshuabotnick2]

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[Peter_Spaeth]

If he gave you permission, why within 30 minutes did you think you had made a mistake and that it would have a bad effect on the seller? This does not make sense to me.

And while you're at it, you might recount the communications that led up to cancellation of the deal.

[joshuabotnick2]

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[calvindog]

Troy, thanks. Josh is someone I had treated like a son, was a friend of my family in California — and he pulled one of the scummiest moves imaginable, just over a few bucks. The money is meaningless to me but the disloyalty and dishonesty is not something I’ll forget.

And Josh, next time you get the urge to ask me to donate to a charity via your fraternity, lose my number. I did it once without a second’s hesitation. You can find another sucker next time.

[Maxjacks]

Originally Posted by joshuabotnick2

Hey Troy, great to hear from you. I posted the card to see if anyone had interest after getting permission to do so by the seller. I asked if he’d mind if I posted, his answer was no, he wouldn’t. With that, I posted on 1 Facebook group (DOND Group). 30 minutes later after acknowledging my mistake and its affect it would have on the seller, I took down it down. That is the rest of the story; I asked for permission to post, got permission, and took it down.

Ps. Thank you for the podcast shoutout

Josh I want to suggest to you again like I did on facebook that you should take a break. You are not doing yourself any favors on here.
I have nothing against resellers in the least but there is a right and wrong way of doing things and I think you missed the boat on this one.

You and Jeff were friends and you told half-truths to him and in my opinion lied through omission about your motives.

You dug up an old thread and Jeff stood by his price which many would not have done on such an old thread. You knew how much the other one sold for when you bought it again Jeff was a friend of yours.
Then you asked him if you could post it for sale while neglecting to tell him again how much it was worth again this is someone you said was your friend.

Then when you posted it in the dond thread you quoted the comp and turned down offers well over what you paid but when people mentioned it you deleted the thread.

You say you were not buying to flip but this all happened because you were so anxious to sell it that Jeff had not even had a chance to ship it.

Again he agreed to sell it and took your money but if you do not honestly see issue with how you treated one of your "Friends" I definitely know I do not wish to be one of your friends. I am sure many others probably feel the same way

The people upset at you are not upset because you are reselling they are upset because of how you conducted yourself.





Max Jackson