Uncut Proof sheet c. 1913 with Cobb and Joe Jackson in May '24 Hunt Auctions

[boneheadandrube]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

My thoughts exactly.

Okay, if its not real where are those images from to create it? Lets go through the process of making this thing.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by boneheadandrube

Okay, if its not real where are those images from to create it? Lets go through the process of making this thing.

Fairly simple to get new old pictures like this. Recently it changed to now being IA. Before it was just called an app. Find a BW photo. Go to an app and colorize it. Very easy to find apps to do this. Then go to one of the apps that make old pictures move. Also very easy to find as they have even been shown on this forum using cards. Then do a still with the player in a new position and colorized.

That is one of many possible ways.

[boneheadandrube]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Fairly simple to get new old pictures like this. Recently it changed to now being IA. Before it was just called an app. Find a BW photo. Go to an app and colorize it. Very easy to find apps to do this. Then go to one of the apps that make old pictures move. Also very easy to find as they have even been shown on this forum using cards. Then do a still with the player in a new position and colorized.

That is one of many possible ways.

I'm talking about those specific images. Have you seen them before? I collect type 1 photo's from that time and don't recall seeing them. Are they from newspapers?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by boneheadandrube

I'm talking about those specific images. Have you seen them before? I collect type 1 photo's from that time and don't recall seeing them. Are they from newspapers?

His point was you don't actually need specific images today. I think, however, when these were created, you probably did. Even if they're a fantasy piece I think they're too old for what Ben is suggesting.

I thought at first glance the Bender pose looked familiar.

[boneheadandrube]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

His point was you don't actually need specific images today. I think, however, when these were created, you probably did. Even if they're a fantasy piece I think they're too old for what Ben is suggesting.

I thought at first glance the Bender pose looked familiar.

Yeah, that was why I went straight into asking about the specific images. Those apps etc didn't exist prior to 2015 when this was first offered for sale. Also, the Helmar cards mentioned are artist renditions, these seem to be colorized photos, so there should be a B&W source.
I'm hoping that instead of just throwing in a skeptical/negative two cents and leaving, people will try to work through the process it would have taken to make something like this. I find it hard to believe that a company as experienced as Hunt would not only offer something like this if they didn't have confidence in it, let alone put it on the cover of their catalog.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

His point was you don't actually need specific images today. I think, however, when these were created, you probably did. Even if they're a fantasy piece I think they're too old for what Ben is suggesting.

I thought at first glance the Bender pose looked familiar.

That Bender image reminds me of his T207 image, close but not the same.

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

That Bender image reminds me of his T207 image, close but not the same.

Hmm ... compared to whatever this is , T207’s are somewhat crude drawings in comparison - perhaps the t207 Bender and Gregg (C on uniform instead of Cleveland) drawings were inspired by the same photographs used in whatever this is . Edit t207 Perdue it’s definitely from the same image .. I guess what I’m getting at is most ofthese images Can be nailed down to 1911 or 1912
Note : I certainly prefer the t207 s