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Old 02-09-2024, 12:55 PM
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Default Shag

A great looking card (Christoper Walken meets professional baseball??),
multi-sport and multi-country influence. I don't own one and would love
to rectify that. Kind of a Bull Durham feel to him in T206. Trent King
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Old 02-09-2024, 01:18 PM
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Crazy how times flies...was 2008 when we started discussing that, 16 years ago!

A bunch of people in those threads (including me) referenced Bill (and maybe someone else) hoarding them.

Fun to revisit those old threads...I miss Ted.
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Got a good one in my t206 collection.
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Shag was a renaissance man for the sporting world, with appeal to US/CA cross-border fans for his success as Montreal Royals manager, Independent League president, business innovator, Ottawa hockey coach, and sports touchstone at multiple schools, including Yale, Notre Dame, and McGill. Someone with that many collector hooks is destined to be tough to track down! A modern analogue might be rolling Bob Uecker, Tony LaRussa, and Gary Bettman into one guy.

There's an excellent chance the 1936-37 World Wide Gum baseball set, with its heavy emphasis on IL players, exists _because_ Shaughnessy led Montreal to the IL playoffs a year prior, since it would've created a lot of local fan interest.
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Shag was a renaissance man for the sporting world, with appeal to US/CA cross-border fans for his success as Montreal Royals manager, Independent League president, business innovator, Ottawa hockey coach, and sports touchstone at multiple schools, including Yale, Notre Dame, and McGill. Someone with that many collector hooks is destined to be tough to track down! A modern analogue might be rolling Bob Uecker, Tony LaRussa, and Gary Bettman into one guy.

There's an excellent chance the 1936-37 World Wide Gum baseball set, with its heavy emphasis on IL players, exists _because_ Shaughnessy led Montreal to the IL playoffs a year prior, since it would've created a lot of local fan interest.
And he still has the hair!
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Got a good one in my t206 collection.
Take a look at the bottom left corner and the black frame line. Is this a scanner 'correction' or a real printing defect? Haven't seen a broken border Shag before, would be interesting if there was a recurring defect there.
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Old 02-10-2024, 09:28 AM
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Take a look at the bottom left corner and the black frame line. Is this a scanner 'correction' or a real printing defect? Haven't seen a broken border Shag before, would be interesting if there was a recurring defect there.
There are a couple of different recurring broken border flaws found on Shaughnessy but I've never seen that one before if it is a flaw and not the scan.

There's also a recurring flaw with part of the bottom of team caption missing. The one on the left also has one of the recurring border breaks.

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There are a couple of different recurring broken border flaws found on Shaughnessy but I've never seen that one before if it is a flaw and not the scan.

There's also a recurring flaw with part of the bottom of team caption missing. The one on the left also has one of the recurring border breaks.

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Thank you Pat, I did not know about the team caption intrusion on Shag.

I'm not aware of any T206 subject that comes like the SGC 7 from jonvancouver if that is indeed not a scanner thing. Lots of small border breaks but that's an unusual 'wave' type of defect. I am no expert on T206, but there are not many T cards with that type of border defect in the non-sport and pugilist realms.
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Thank you Pat, I did not know about the team caption intrusion on Shag.

I'm not aware of any T206 subject that comes like the SGC 7 from jonvancouver if that is indeed not a scanner thing. Lots of small border breaks but that's an unusual 'wave' type of defect. I am no expert on T206, but there are not many T cards with that type of border defect in the non-sport and pugilist realms.

There are a few different recurring T206's "wave" type border defects. Steve says that they occur when they attempted to fix a border break.

I actually found one similar to the SGC 7 in one of my folders so it is a defect

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it was probably an attempt to fix this defect

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Take a look at the bottom left corner and the black frame line. Is this a scanner 'correction' or a real printing defect? Haven't seen a broken border Shag before, would be interesting if there was a recurring defect there.
I will check tomorrow morning and send a closer shot!
Offhand I can’t recall but I am fairly certain it’s not a scanner issue.
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I will check tomorrow morning and send a closer shot!
Offhand I can’t recall but I am fairly certain it’s not a scanner issue.
Pat found another copy of this defect in post 22 to confirm your card is not a scanner issue but indeed a new recurring defect we didn't know about to add to his list. That's pretty cool, thank you for sharing your Shag and finding a new minor variation for the hobby
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One of the very few Southern Leaguers whose signature is relatively easy to find and affordable.



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Pat found another copy of this defect in post 22 to confirm your card is not a scanner issue but indeed a new recurring defect we didn't know about to add to his list. That's pretty cool, thank you for sharing your Shag and finding a new minor variation for the hobby
Very cool!
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