Hey, pennant guys

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ser1979

I purchased this pennant the other day and was wondering if anyone in the group could possibly shed some light on the history or if they have seen one like this before. I did a quick google search for York County Southern League and came up with just a few pictures. Any help would be appreciated. Also any help on how to convince your wife to let you display an 8ft pennant would be appreciated, lol

https://www.ebay.com/itm/305355116098

1. Get a pool table
2. Never use it

(These are just under 6 feet long

There must be a Giants somewhere …

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by thetahat

1. Get a pool table
2. Never use it

(These are just under 6 feet long

There must be a Giants somewhere …

Do you know if there is an Orioles example?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Mark70Z

Do you know if there is an Orioles example?

I have only seen two other teams (neither of which was Orioles) I bought mine in two batches. One came from a person who had both Angels and LAD, who claimed that he got them from someone who said they hung at the 1969 ASG.The fact that these are trademarked still suggests that more quantities were made. To think that there could be a Pilots somewhere out there!

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I have only seen two other teams (neither of which was Orioles) I bought mine in two batches. One came from a person who had both Angels and LAD, who claimed that he got them from someone who said they hung at the 1969 ASG.The fact that these are trademarked still suggests that more quantities were made. To think that there could be a Pilots somewhere out there!

Thanks for some of the background on these large pennants. You would think if they were made in larger quantities I would at least seen some examples. The ones you’ve posted are the only examples I’ve seen of these large pennants from ‘69.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I have only seen two other teams (neither of which was Orioles) I bought mine in two batches. One came from a person who had both Angels and LAD, who claimed that he got them from someone who said they hung at the 1969 ASG.The fact that these are trademarked still suggests that more quantities were made. To think that there could be a Pilots somewhere out there!

These are just super-sized versions of existing 30” pennants, right? If so, I think the trademark symbol would have just carried over when they enlarged the silk screen, by whatever process they used. The trademark, in and of itself, doesn’t necessarily lead me to believe they were made in quantities. But you know more than I….

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

These are just super-sized versions of existing 30” pennants, right? If so, I think the trademark symbol would have just carried over when they enlarged the silk screen, by whatever process they used. The trademark, in and of itself, doesn’t necessarily lead me to believe they were made in quantities. But you know more than I….

Correct and yes you may be right. These are enlarged versions of what I think is the underappreciated 1969 ASCO cloth pennant series. Everything is enlarged *except* for the MLB trademark which is the same size as it is on the 30”. These are a softer felt and the graphics are painted but with a rubberized texture so it doesn’t crack. Very strange.

One of the very early posts on this thread shows a beautiful Twins version from this series, might guess there are more of those around since ASCO was in MN.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Correct and yes you may be right. These are enlarged versions of what I think is the underappreciated 1969 ASCO cloth pennant series. Everything is enlarged *except* for the MLB trademark which is the same size as it is on the 30”. These are a softer felt and the graphics are painted but with a rubberized texture so it doesn’t crack. Very strange.

One of the very early posts on this thread shows a beautiful Twins version from this series, might guess there are more of those around since ASCO was in MN.

Yeah, I can see the rubberized texture if I zoom in.

The fact that the MLB trademark is not super-sized makes me rethink my theory of the maker using 30” silk screens, somehow enlarged. Remember the overhead projectors from elementary and high school? That, or something similar, was the 1969 kind of “technology” I was thinking they might use to draw a new screen.

We may never know….but knowing the obsessive nature of some of us pennant guys, we just might!

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

These are just super-sized versions of existing 30” pennants, right? If so, I think the trademark symbol would have just carried over when they enlarged the silk screen, by whatever process they used. The trademark, in and of itself, doesn’t necessarily lead me to believe they were made in quantities. But you know more than I….

I agree. The maker (ASCO) was probably obligated to use the MLB logo as part of their license with every MLB pennant made--no matter the team, no matter the size. And, if these were made as one-offs in support of an MLB-hosted ASG, I would certainly expect them to have the MLB logo on them.

The commissioner (and his lawyers) were bound to see them. They may even placed the order for them!

These had to be one-offs.

[bocca001]

The Astros was for sale for several years, on ebay, for about $300. The seller then ran it as an auction and it sold for maybe $250? I could be getting those numbers wrong. I guess the question is whether the one Greg eventually got is the same one that sold on ebay years ago, or another.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

The Astros was for sale for several years, on ebay, for about $300. The seller then ran it as an auction and it sold for maybe $250? I could be getting those numbers wrong. I guess the question is whether the one Greg eventually got is the same one that sold on ebay years ago, or another.

Let’s beat this dead horse a little more, shall we?

This thing sold probably 25 years ago on ebay. It went for decent money, but nothing crazy. I still kick myself for not getting it. Based on the seller’s description, it’s not as big as the ones Greg has. It’s also polychromatic. Same series? Something completely different? What do you guys think?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

The Astros was for sale for several years, on ebay, for about $300. The seller then ran it as an auction and it sold for maybe $250? I could be getting those numbers wrong. I guess the question is whether the one Greg eventually got is the same one that sold on ebay years ago, or another.

Yes that was me. I got 4 of my 6 from him for an even grand. His had grommets like the Expos above.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

1. Get a pool table
2. Never use it

There must be a Giants somewhere …

and

1. You’ll find it.
2. I’ll be insanely jealous