Dealers' Pricing at the National

[raulus]

We can always dream!

Retail always seems to mean the price is a bit more than you might pay at auction. The trade-off is that you don’t have to deal with the hassle of an auction, and the possibility that it might go even higher. For the seller, they get to skip the uncertainty of the process and lock in a price that’s good enough while potentially giving up some upside if it goes into a complete bidding war at auction.

My guess is that your best bet to get a deal on major stars is going to be on lower graded stuff. Once you get into the higher grades, especially for the earlier issues for the major postwar stars, it’s hard to imagine that a dealer will be willing to come down by very much. Maybe a little, but getting a serious deal seems unlikely.

[Snapolit1]

Same as every big show. Most prices will be stupid high. Lots of things will have no price. Lots of people will explain what they "are into something" like that matters.

I'm not unsympathetic. Costs money to travel round and thank god people do it. But prices are laregely crazy on really desirable stuff. If the card is worth $3500 you can bet it will be marked at $10,000 or higher.

Look at eBay. Almost none of the prices for vintage cards or memorabilia have moved off stupid Covid highs. Expect more of the same.

[Rich Klein]

One aspect to point out, as I tend to do, is that unless you live without easy driving distance of the NSCC and don't have to pony up for Hotel Rooms and usually more expensive food, you have a minimum of 3K out of your pocket before you even sell a card.

That number is a hard number to match and certainly makes it harder to make your expenses than at a local card show which costs you a few hours and $50 for a table

Of course there are deals at the NSCC but you just have to dig a bit

Rich

[Johnny630]

Prices on the good stuff are going to be as high as ever. You will hear I don’t need to sell, it will go up again even more in the long run. If I don’t get my number I’ll be fine...dealers have the upper hand on the good stuff. They will hold or give to REA , Goldin, Heritage, and get insane numbers as always, the auction houses keep things in motion. Ok sure th Mediocre stuff and less there will be deals to be had. Just don’t get high hopes thinking you will get the real good stuff reasonable that won’t happen.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

One aspect to point out, as I tend to do, is that unless you live without easy driving distance of the NSCC and don't have to pony up for Hotel Rooms and usually more expensive food, you have a minimum of 3K out of your pocket before you even sell a card.

I’ve never understood this argument. As an attendee from out of state, except for table fees, I’ve spent the same before even buying a card 😀

[Rrrlyons]

Originally Posted by conor912

I’ve never understood this argument. As an attendee from out of state, except for table fees, I’ve spent the same before even buying a card 😀

Exactly with that logic that means everything we buy has to be worth $3,000 more than we paid for it. Sellers spend the money for the right to have more eyes on your wares and the buyers are hoping they see things they can’t buy at their local shows.
With that seller logic let me know when you are set up at your local show your prices should be a lot cheaper.😀
Rick

[Jewish-collector]

I love when the dealers say, "Let me see what I have into it". Oh hell yeah. beer chug.gif

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by conor912

I’ve never understood this argument. As an attendee from out of state, except for table fees, I’ve spent the same before even buying a card 😀

And this is why I'll probably never go to the National. I can find almost anything I want for about $3000 less if I buy it online. Not that I wouldn't have fun in the presence of all the cool material, but it's not $3000 worth of fun.

[Jewish-collector]

The novelty of the National is over. The only reason to go nowadays is to attend the Net54 dinner.

[5-Tool Player]

[QUOTE=Rich Klein;2346617]One aspect to point out, as I tend to do, is that unless you live without easy driving distance of the NSCC and don't have to pony up for Hotel Rooms and usually more expensive food, you have a minimum of 3K out of your pocket before you even sell a card.

That number is a hard number to match and certainly makes it harder to make your expenses than at a local card show which costs you a few hours and $50 for a table

Of course there are deals at the NSCC but you just have to dig a bit

Rich[/QUOTE

Rich, GREAT point......before you make "deals" you have to recoup your expenses