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Old 02-23-2023, 10:21 AM
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i think some of y'all are making assumptions that cannot be substantiated.
Which one?
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my point is based on the surviving pop of graded e98 around the time of the BSF...the find practically doubled the pop of e98's.

Caramel cards are rare...and were likely printed in much smaller numbers than something like t206.


i believe the BSF contributed an extraordinarily large number of cards to the pop...most of the same color.

This is peculiar.

This is my point. I believe BOB is incorrect in his estimation of 25 examples/card. I remember more like close to 50 each of cobb and wagner.
And I believe 1000+ cards for one store is an extraordinarily large #. If every store got this quantity of cards...there'd be a ton more surviving examples for sure.

just my opinion.
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my point is based on the surviving pop of graded e98 around the time of the BSF...the find practically doubled the pop of e98's.

Caramel cards are rare...and were likely printed in much smaller numbers than something like t206.


i believe the BSF contributed an extraordinarily large number of cards to the pop...most of the same color.

This is peculiar.

This is my point. I believe BOB is incorrect in his estimation of 25 examples/card. I remember more like close to 50 each of cobb and wagner.
And I believe 1000+ cards for one store is an extraordinarily large #. If every store got this quantity of cards...there'd be a ton more surviving examples for sure.

just my opinion.
The population for graded E98s more than doubled since 2012. I posted the numbers even if you account for cards being resubmitted. There were more than 1400 cards in this find. We all know what Heritage graded. And I know someone who had been offered, and essentially passed on, the cards which the other family members held back.

I too think it is absurd to think that a local meat market in a small community would have been given that many cards to hand out. They would have been handing them out well past the retirement of most of those players.

More likely that the owner ended up with them sometime after 1910 by the printer or distributor who had these sitting around in storage.
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My recollections: The vast majority of the cards were red backgrounds. The only other color in the find was green. There were no Walsh's and only one Mathewson. All other players were well represented. They were found in stacks of 22 cards, with, of course, multiple stacks of the other 28 players.
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My recollections: The vast majority of the cards were red backgrounds. The only other color in the find was green. There were no Walsh's and only one Mathewson. All other players were well represented. They were found in stacks of 22 cards, with, of course, multiple stacks of the other 28 players.
Jennings was underrepresented as well.
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Not a single person is disputing whatsoever that the find drastically increased the surviving number of cards. Pretty much every poster has said this, including me.

I don't know why we would expect a retailer, using the cards as a promotional tool in the middle of a fad for that exact tool (as the primary sources tell us), would order a quantity that would allow them to hand out 1 or 2 at most in a day. We can't know a hand out rate that business had, but the entire point of cards at this time was to use as a promotional tool. It would seem to be counterproductive to place orders of such a tool that would not allow much distribution to customers. A meat market in 1910 still needs customers to survive. It is possible the family guess is wrong and a relative acquired them years later from some other source for unknown reason, but I don't see how to arrive at that as the deductive probability. Perhaps I am missing an element.

We have actual production figures for other sets of this period that very strongly suggest a minuscule survival rate, not a large one.
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We have actual production figures for other sets of this period that very strongly suggest a minuscule survival rate, not a large one.[/QUOTE]

We do? Which sets?
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Jennings was underrepresented as well.
And Lajoie
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Post # 102 from this thread https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...=152726&page=2 lists the 750 that got graded by PSA back in 2012. Pasted below is that list, just so I can say I posted a really long post.

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Default Card Target Cert Run Results.... MAMAMIA!!
19871692 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871693 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871694 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint 7
19871695 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871696 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871697 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871698 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871699 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871700 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871701 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871702 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871703 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871704 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871705 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871706 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871707 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871708 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871709 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871710 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871711 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871712 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871713 1910 e98 set of 30 frank chance black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871714 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871715 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint 7
19871716 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871717 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871718 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871719 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871720 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871721 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871722 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871723 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871724 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871725 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871726 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find mint 9
19871727 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871728 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871729 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871730 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871731 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871732 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871733 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871734 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871735 1910 e98 set of 30 hippo vaughn black swamp find excellent 5
19871736 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find very good-excellent+ 4.5
19871737 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871738 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find excellent-mint 6
19871739 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint+ 8.5
19871740 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint+ 8.5
19871741 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871742 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871743 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871744 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find good+ 2.5
19871745 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871746 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871747 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871748 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871749 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find good+ 2.5
19871750 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871751 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find gem mint 10
19871752 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871753 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871754 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871755 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871756 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871757 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871758 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871759 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871760 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871761 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871760 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871761 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871762 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871763 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND GOOD+ 2.5
19871764 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871765 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871766 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871767 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19871768 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND GOOD+ 2.5
19871769 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871770 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871771 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HANS WAGNER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871772 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint 7
19871773 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find mint 9
19871774 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find mint 9
19871775 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find good+ 2.5
19871776 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint+ 8.5
19871777 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find mint 9
19871778 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find mint 9
19871779 1910 e98 set of 30 hans wagner black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871780 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find excellent-mint 6
19871781 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint 7
19871782 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint-mint 8
19871783 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find excellent-mint 6
19871784 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint 7
19871785 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint 7
19871786 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find excellent-mint+ 6.5
19871787 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint 7
19871788 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint 7
19871789 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint 7
19871790 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint 7
19871791 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint 7
19871792 1910 e98 set of 30 roger bresnahan black swamp find near mint 7
19871793 1910 E98 SET OF 30 ROGER BRESNAHAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871794 1910 E98 SET OF 30 ROGER BRESNAHAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871795 1910 E98 SET OF 30 ROGER BRESNAHAN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871796 1910 E98 SET OF 30 ROGER BRESNAHAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871797 1910 E98 SET OF 30 ROGER BRESNAHAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871798 1910 E98 SET OF 30 ROGER BRESNAHAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871799 1910 E98 SET OF 30 ROGER BRESNAHAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871800 1910 E98 SET OF 30 ROGER BRESNAHAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871801 1910 E98 SET OF 30 ROGER BRESNAHAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871802 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871803 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871804 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871805 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871806 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871807 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871808 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871809 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871810 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871811 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871812 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871813 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT+ 5.5
19871814 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871815 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871816 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871817 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871818 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871819 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871820 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871821 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871822 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871823 1910 E98 SET OF 30 EDDIE COLLINS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871824 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871825 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871826 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871827 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871828 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871829 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19871830 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871831 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19871832 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871833 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871834 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871835 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871836 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871837 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871838 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871839 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871840 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871841 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871842 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871843 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871844 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871845 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CONNIE MACK BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871846 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871847 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND GOOD+ 2.5
19871848 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871849 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871850 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871851 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND GOOD+ 2.5
19871852 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19871853 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871854 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19871855 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19871856 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871857 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19871858 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19871859 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND GOOD+ 2.5
19871860 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19871861 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871862 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19871863 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871864 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19871865 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19871866 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19871867 1910 E98 SET OF 30 BILL DAHLEN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871868 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871869 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871870 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871871 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871872 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871873 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871874 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871875 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871876 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871877 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19871878 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871879 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871880 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871881 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19871882 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871883 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871884 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871885 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871886 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4
19871887 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871888 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19871889 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT+ 7.5
19871890 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871891 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871892 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871893 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871894 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871895 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871896 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871897 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871898 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871899 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871900 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871901 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19871902 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871903 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871904 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871905 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871906 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871907 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871908 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871909 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871910 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871911 1910 E98 SET OF 30 LARRY McLEAN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871912 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871913 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871914 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871915 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871916 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871917 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871918 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871919 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871920 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871921 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871922 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871923 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871924 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19871925 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871926 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871927 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871928 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19871929 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871930 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871931 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871932 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19871933 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 MC
19871934 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871935 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871936 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871937 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871938 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871939 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871940 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871941 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871942 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871943 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871944 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871945 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19871946 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19871947 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871948 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19871949 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871950 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19871951 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871952 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871953 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871954 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871955 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED TENNY BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871956 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5
19871957 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871958 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871959 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871960 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871961 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871962 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871963 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871964 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871965 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871966 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871967 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871968 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871969 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871970 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871971 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871972 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871973 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871974 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871975 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871976 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871977 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JACK COOMBS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19871978 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOE TINKER BLACK SWAMP FIND GOOD 2
19871979 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HUGHEY JENNINGS BLACK SWAMP FIND FAIR 1.5
19871980 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHRISTY MATHEWSON BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6 MC
19871981 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871982 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871983 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871984 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871985 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871986 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871987 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871988 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871989 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871990 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871991 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871992 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871993 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871994 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871995 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871996 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871997 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871998 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19871999 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872000 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872001 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872002 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872003 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872004 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872005 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5
19872006 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872007 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872008 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872009 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872010 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872011 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872012 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872013 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872014 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872015 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872016 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872017 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872018 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872019 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872020 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872021 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872022 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872023 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872024 1910 E98 SET OF 30 MINER BROWN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872025 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872026 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872027 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872028 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872029 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872030 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872031 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872032 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872033 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872034 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872035 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872036 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872037 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872038 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872039 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872040 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872041 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872042 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872043 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872044 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872045 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872046 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872047 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872048 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872049 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872050 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872051 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872052 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872053 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872054 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872055 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872056 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872057 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872058 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872059 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872060 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872061 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872062 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872063 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872064 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872065 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872066 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872067 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872068 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHN McGRAW BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872069 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872070 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872071 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872072 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872073 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872074 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872075 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872076 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872077 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872078 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872079 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872080 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872081 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872082 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872083 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872084 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872085 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872086 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872087 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872088 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872089 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872090 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF BENDER BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872091 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872092 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872093 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872094 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872095 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872096 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872097 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872098 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872099 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872100 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872101 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872102 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872103 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872104 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872105 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872106 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872107 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872108 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872109 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872110 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872111 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872112 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872113 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872114 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872115 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872116 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872117 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872118 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872119 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872120 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872121 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872122 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872123 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872124 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872125 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872126 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872127 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872128 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872129 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872130 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872131 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872132 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872133 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872134 1910 E98 SET OF 30 GEORGE MULLIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872135 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872136 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872137 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872138 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872139 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872140 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872141 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND GEM MINT 10
19872142 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872143 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872144 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872145 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872146 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872147 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND GEM MINT 10
19872148 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872149 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872150 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872151 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872152 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872153 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872154 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872155 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872156 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CHIEF MEYERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT+ 7.5
19872157 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872158 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872159 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872160 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872161 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872162 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872163 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872164 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872165 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872166 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872167 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872168 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872169 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872170 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872171 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872172 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872173 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872174 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872175 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872176 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872177 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872178 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872179 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872180 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT 5
19872181 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872182 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872183 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872184 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872185 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872186 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872187 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872188 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872189 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872190 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872191 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872192 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872193 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872194 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872195 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872196 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872197 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872198 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872199 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872200 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HARRY DAVIS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872201 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872202 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872203 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872204 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872205 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872206 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872207 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872208 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872209 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872210 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872211 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872212 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872213 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872214 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872215 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872216 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872217 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872218 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872219 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872220 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872221 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872222 1910 E98 SET OF 30 HAL CHASE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872223 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872224 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872225 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872226 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872227 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872228 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872229 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872230 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872231 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872232 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872233 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872234 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872235 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872236 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872237 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872238 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872239 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872240 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872241 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872242 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872243 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872244 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872245 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872246 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872247 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872248 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872249 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872250 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872251 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872252 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872253 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872254 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872255 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872256 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872257 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872258 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872259 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872260 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872261 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872262 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872263 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872264 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872265 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872266 1910 E98 SET OF 30 AL BRIDWELL BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872267 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872268 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872269 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872270 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872271 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872272 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872273 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872274 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872275 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872276 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872277 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872278 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872279 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872280 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872281 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872282 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872283 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872284 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872285 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872286 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872287 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872288 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RUSS FORD BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872289 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872290 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872291 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872292 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872293 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872294 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872295 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872296 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872297 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872298 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872299 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872300 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872301 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872302 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872303 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872304 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872305 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872306 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872307 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872308 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872309 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872310 1910 E98 SET OF 30 FRED CLARKE BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872311 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872312 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872313 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872314 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND GEM MINT 10
19872315 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872316 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872317 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT+ 7.5
19872318 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872319 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872320 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872321 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872322 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872323 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872324 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872325 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872326 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872327 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872328 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872329 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872330 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872331 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872332 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY KLING BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872333 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872334 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872335 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872336 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872337 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872338 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872339 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872340 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872341 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872342 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872343 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872344 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872345 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872346 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872347 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872348 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872349 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872350 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872351 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872352 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872353 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872354 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872355 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872356 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872357 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872358 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872359 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872360 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872361 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872362 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872363 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9 OC
19872364 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872365 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872366 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872367 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872368 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872369 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872370 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872371 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872372 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872373 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872374 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872375 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872376 1910 E98 SET OF 30 CY YOUNG (IRV YOUNG) BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872377 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872378 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872379 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872380 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872381 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872382 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872383 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872384 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872385 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872386 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872387 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872388 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872389 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872390 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872391 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872392 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872393 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872394 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872395 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5
19872396 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872397 1910 E98 SET OF 30 TY COBB BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872398 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872399 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872400 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872401 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872402 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872403 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872404 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872405 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872406 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872407 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872408 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872409 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872410 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872411 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872412 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND EXCELLENT-MINT 6
19872413 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872414 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872415 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872416 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872417 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872418 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872419 1910 E98 SET OF 30 RED DOOIN BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT 7
19872420 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872421 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872422 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872423 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872424 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872425 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872426 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872427 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872428 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872429 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND MINT 9
19872430 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872431 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872432 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872433 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872434 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872435 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872436 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872437 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872438 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872439 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
19872440 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT+ 7.5
19872441 1910 E98 SET OF 30 JOHNNY EVERS BLACK SWAMP FIND NEAR MINT-MINT 8
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My recollections: The vast majority of the cards were red backgrounds. The only other color in the find was green. There were no Walsh's and only one Mathewson. All other players were well represented. They were found in stacks of 22 cards, with, of course, multiple stacks of the other 28 players.
There were oranges in the find as well. Blue, I'm not sure about but definitely orange.


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my point is based on the surviving pop of graded e98 around the time of the BSF...the find practically doubled the pop of e98's.

Caramel cards are rare...and were likely printed in much smaller numbers than something like t206.


i believe the BSF contributed an extraordinarily large number of cards to the pop...most of the same color.

This is peculiar.

This is my point. I believe BOB is incorrect in his estimation of 25 examples/card. I remember more like close to 50 each of cobb and wagner.
And I believe 1000+ cards for one store is an extraordinarily large #. If every store got this quantity of cards...there'd be a ton more surviving examples for sure.

just my opinion.
Pete,

As Edhans said, he heard about 22 per player, right in line with what I had said, about 20-25 per player. All the stories I had seen were talking around 700 or so cards being found, which makes perfect sense when you take the 30 players in the set, less the couple/few that appear to have either been taken to this guy's store and actually distributed/given away, or were for whatever reason not included in the player cards originally given him. You end up with about 27-28 players X 20-25 cards per each, which get you close to that 700+ figure. And maybe there were a couple players with two stacks, so they did have closer to 50 cards, but the large majority of the players in the set that were in this find would have only been in that 20-25 cards per player range, as I said. Having a couple/few players with maybe a second stack of cards in the find gets you even closer to the 700+ or so cards estimated in the stories, but would only be the case for a very few of the players, at most. So the 20-25 cards per player I mentioned is likely accurate for the majority of the players after all.

And then go back to the Strange Inheritance TV show episode, where they actually have the people who originally found the cards on and talking about them. The show host actually mentioned them finding about 800 cards in total in the find, more than once, during the show. Why would a TV show, that has the actual parties that found the cards and who are directly contributing to the show, be giving an incorrect total for the number of cards actually found? I had seen the episode years ago, which showed how the cards of individual players were wrapped in twine or string. You can see from the recreation that there is probably about 20-25 cards or so in each stack or group that were found. There were about 20 or so cousins that all shared in the collection as well, and when it was discussed among everyone what to do with the cards, they decided to split them up in what I guess were equal lots, and then let each of the cousins decide what they wanted to do with their lot. Apparently not every cousin decided right then and there to sell their portion of the cards. Those that did combined and sent their cards off to Heritage to then do a structured sale so as to not completely flood the market all at once. And Pete Calderon at Heritage had Joe Orlando and PSA grade the cards they were given before selling them for the heirs. Those that did not take part in the sale supposedly kept their cards and didn't send them right off to Heritage, and subsequent grading by PSA. I've never heard what actually happened with those cards supposedly kept by some of the cousins. For all I know, they've since been sold/graded, but maybe some are actually still in the hands of a cousin or two. I've assumed that the people and stories I used to hear/read talking about there being 600-700 or so cards in the Find were referring to the cards of the cousins that decided to go ahead and sell right from the beginning through Heritage. That makes perfect sense then if you figure that if the entire find had about 800 cards, each cousin's share would be about 30-40 cards. So, if 2, 3, or 4 of the cousins decided not to sell their cards right away, and kept them instead, that easily gets the 800 or so mentioned as the total Find in the Strange Inheritance TV show down to the 600-700 often mentioned in stories and reports. But nowhere does anyone ever mention there were 1000-1500 cards in this find. So once again I ask, for those that are now saying there was 1000-1500 in this find, where the heck did any of you hear or see that?

Also, as had been mentioned before, stories like this get people's attention in the hobby. Hearing about this find, and the attention it triggered, could also get people that had raw versions of these E98 cards to suddenly start getting them graded as well, to possibly jump in and take advantage of the attention this set was now getting. Just look at the prices these cards were getting, as shown in the Strange Inheritance TV show story. Isn't this exactly what is at times talked about here on the forum how when a card(s) suddenly goes for a big price, it gets other collectors excited and tends to bring similar cards out of the woodwork as others look to now cash in as well? And as some others also mentioned, it is extremely probable that the number of graded E98 cards per population reports are inflated due to various reasons. And also, as was mentioned in different articles and on the TV show, prior to the Black Swamp Find there were no E98 cards graded higher than a 7, and most all the Black Swamp cards were described as being in better condition than that. Well, if you look at the PSA and SGC population reports today, they show a total of 202 E98 cards graded higher than a 7 by SGC, and 704 E98 cards graded higher than a 7 by PSA. That comes to 906 in total between them. And though not in existence until just a couple years back, CSG's population report shows 17 E98 cards have been graded by them that rate higher than a 7, bringing the grand total up to 923 E98s currently graded better than NM 7. And as some have talked about those figures being inflated due to crossovers, wanting to remove the "Black Swamp Find" designation from the flips, and who knows how many some card doctors may have gotten a hold of for resubmission. And there is also the distinct possibility there actually could have been some pristine E98 cards that were raw and in collector's hands, but unknown to the hobby at large prior to the Find, that were brought out into the hobby because of the publicity the Black Swamp Find created. In other words, the 923 figure for graded E98 cards higher than a 7 grade doesn't really seem to be out of line with there having been about 700-800 cards in the Black Swamp Find after all, assuming there are some inflated population report numbers for these graded E98s after all.

If you have or know of other information, articles, data or logical explanations as to there being 1000-1500 of these cards in the Black Swamp Find after all, would love to see/hear it/them.
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But nowhere does anyone ever mention there were 1000-1500 cards in this find. So once again I ask, for those that are now saying there was 1000-1500 in this find, where the heck did any of you hear or see that?

If you have or know of other information, articles, data or logical explanations as to there being 1000-1500 of these cards in the Black Swamp Find after all, would love to see/hear it/them.
Hi Bob,

As I have posted twice, there were more cards in the find than what was disclosed by anyone giving interviews. The part of the family who sold initially opted to have Heritage let the hobby know up front how many cards were available for sale rather than have Heritage submit these slowly over the years. Maybe the other family members preferred to have the cards as opposed to the money and 7 years later changed their minds???

Clearly looking at the population reports in 2023 on the E98 set with SGC and PSA numbers have blown up showing 4,000 cards graded and even if we decide that cards were submitted more than once and/or possibly broken out of one holder and sent to the other grading service, that still adds up to a lot more than the original find as being the only cards from the find. If PSA had graded 628 E98s up until the find, let's say SGC had graded 700. That leaves roughly 2,700 E98s submitted between 2012 and 2023. If 750 of those were from Heritage that leaves roughly 2,000 more E98s to go to those TPGers.

I had great interest in the find because I was hoping to add the lower graded Hall of Famers from the find to my own collection. One interview did include a vague reference that could have been interpreted two different ways suggesting there might be more cards. Nobody followed up on it or maybe they tried and it was shutdown because the focus was on what Heritage was bringing to auction.

It is really not my place to go into details but I spoke with the dealer who was initially part of the deal buying out the back half of the collection and his words to me were that there was a larger quantity of cards in the back half of the collection than in the portion which Heritage offered for sale.
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Hi Bob,

As I have posted twice, there were more cards in the find than what was disclosed by anyone giving interviews. The part of the family who sold initially opted to have Heritage let the hobby know up front how many cards were available for sale rather than have Heritage submit these slowly over the years. Maybe the other family members preferred to have the cards as opposed to the money and 7 years later changed their minds???

Clearly looking at the population reports in 2023 on the E98 set with SGC and PSA numbers have blown up showing 4,000 cards graded and even if we decide that cards were submitted more than once and/or possibly broken out of one holder and sent to the other grading service, that still adds up to a lot more than the original find as being the only cards from the find. If PSA had graded 628 E98s up until the find, let's say SGC had graded 700. That leaves roughly 2,700 E98s submitted between 2012 and 2023. If 750 of those were from Heritage that leaves roughly 2,000 more E98s to go to those TPGers.

I had great interest in the find because I was hoping to add the lower graded Hall of Famers from the find to my own collection. One interview did include a vague reference that could have been interpreted two different ways suggesting there might be more cards. Nobody followed up on it or maybe they tried and it was shutdown because the focus was on what Heritage was bringing to auction.

It is really not my place to go into details but I spoke with the dealer who was initially part of the deal buying out the back half of the collection and his words to me were that there was a larger quantity of cards in the back half of the collection than in the portion which Heritage offered for sale.
Okay, so you're saying there were way more cards, but pretty much everyone kept it secret as to how many there were, and are still doing it for the most part, despite there now really being no reason to not come out with the truth? And you're also saying that the stories about all these cards from the Find being pretty much pristine and in great condition is not true either? Otherwise, shouldn't there be way more E98 graded cards today in the 8-9-10 grades?

I don't doubt what you're telling the truth as you know it, but why all the friggin' secrecy? If the family that inherited the cards were so worried about possibly killing the market for them if they were all released at once, then why did they release the nicest condition cards first? If someone were sitting on that big of a collection, wouldn't it make more sense to want to slowly start and release some of the lower condition cards first? If the previous highest graded E98 cards ever graded had only been 7s, release some of the cards that were in the 5-6-7 range first. People would pay top dollar for those cards as they were close to the known highest condition E98 cards out there at that time. And then slowly in the coming months/years, progressively release some of the nicer and nicer cards as you go along, and try to hold onto the 9s and 10s till the last. Here's a case where going to someone like Heritage probably works against you. Despite them saying they were releasing these cards over time to maximize income to the family, I think it was more of Heritage wanting to get the word out about these cards and maximize money for themselves, in a short time frame. Of course, members of the family could have easily gone along and wanted to quickly max out what money they could receive from this inheritance as well, and that does make perfect sense and help justify what I think was otherwise maybe bad advice from Heritage on how to handle this Find. But is still doesn't even begin to explain why no one would eventually mention how many cards there really were in this Find then, unless that was part of the hold back and delay releasing them into the hobby tactic, to hopefully maximize and get even more money by spreading out the release of the cards and not letting people know how many there truly were. But again, if you're using that logic and thinking, why sell all the higher condition cards first? If someone just sold a couple first ever seen E98s graded 8, and they bring in record prices for E98 cards, just think what a couple 9s would then bring in the following year or so.

But you're certain that there were a lot more E98 cards in the find, and that there was a different dealer involved in buying a good chunk of the balance of the Find from the family. Okay, but the fact that I've never heard or seen anything about this before in any published articles or stories, and even you are hesitant to name the dealer involved in this so-called sale/purchase, just makes the whole thing seem really sketchy. You're basically saying to just believe the story on almost pure faith, with the only potential evidence to help support the claim being the number of E98 cards that are now graded. Even though the increased number of E98 cards being graded after the Black Swamp Find could also possibly be attributed to more people getting their E98 cards graded following the buzz and excitement of the Black Swamp Find, likely aided by many people now looking to possibly cash in on the prices these new to market E98s were bringing in, as well as just the natural increase/addition to the number of E98 cards that would have been sent in for grading anyway. It's not like people aren't constantly submitting other never before graded pre-war cards during this past decade or so either. I can see the underlying logic to the argument, but without really knowing the accurate number of E98 cards that were in the Black Swamp Find, and why there seems to be so much secrecy still around that, it is somewhat hard to solely attribute the graded card increase to primarily the Black Swamp Find alone. Something doesn't smell right, there shouldn't be all this secrecy about the number of cards in the Find, at least it hasn't been necessary for any reason I can think of for quite a few years now. Like ai said, I don't doubt you at all, but something still doesn't make sense to me. Oh well.
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Okay, so you're saying there were way more cards, but pretty much everyone kept it secret as to how many there were, and are still doing it for the most part, despite there now really being no reason to not come out with the truth? And you're also saying that the stories about all these cards from the Find being pretty much pristine and in great condition is not true either? Otherwise, shouldn't there be way more E98 graded cards today in the 8-9-10 grades?

I don't doubt what you're telling the truth as you know it, but why all the friggin' secrecy? If the family that inherited the cards were so worried about possibly killing the market for them if they were all released at once, then why did they release the nicest condition cards first? If someone were sitting on that big of a collection, wouldn't it make more sense to want to slowly start and release some of the lower condition cards first? If the previous highest graded E98 cards ever graded had only been 7s, release some of the cards that were in the 5-6-7 range first. People would pay top dollar for those cards as they were close to the known highest condition E98 cards out there at that time. And then slowly in the coming months/years, progressively release some of the nicer and nicer cards as you go along, and try to hold onto the 9s and 10s till the last. Here's a case where going to someone like Heritage probably works against you. Despite them saying they were releasing these cards over time to maximize income to the family, I think it was more of Heritage wanting to get the word out about these cards and maximize money for themselves, in a short time frame. Of course, members of the family could have easily gone along and wanted to quickly max out what money they could receive from this inheritance as well, and that does make perfect sense and help justify what I think was otherwise maybe bad advice from Heritage on how to handle this Find. But is still doesn't even begin to explain why no one would eventually mention how many cards there really were in this Find then, unless that was part of the hold back and delay releasing them into the hobby tactic, to hopefully maximize and get even more money by spreading out the release of the cards and not letting people know how many there truly were. But again, if you're using that logic and thinking, why sell all the higher condition cards first? If someone just sold a couple first ever seen E98s graded 8, and they bring in record prices for E98 cards, just think what a couple 9s would then bring in the following year or so.

But you're certain that there were a lot more E98 cards in the find, and that there was a different dealer involved in buying a good chunk of the balance of the Find from the family. Okay, but the fact that I've never heard or seen anything about this before in any published articles or stories, and even you are hesitant to name the dealer involved in this so-called sale/purchase, just makes the whole thing seem really sketchy. You're basically saying to just believe the story on almost pure faith, with the only potential evidence to help support the claim being the number of E98 cards that are now graded. Even though the increased number of E98 cards being graded after the Black Swamp Find could also possibly be attributed to more people getting their E98 cards graded following the buzz and excitement of the Black Swamp Find, likely aided by many people now looking to possibly cash in on the prices these new to market E98s were bringing in, as well as just the natural increase/addition to the number of E98 cards that would have been sent in for grading anyway. It's not like people aren't constantly submitting other never before graded pre-war cards during this past decade or so either. I can see the underlying logic to the argument, but without really knowing the accurate number of E98 cards that were in the Black Swamp Find, and why there seems to be so much secrecy still around that, it is somewhat hard to solely attribute the graded card increase to primarily the Black Swamp Find alone. Something doesn't smell right, there shouldn't be all this secrecy about the number of cards in the Find, at least it hasn't been necessary for any reason I can think of for quite a few years now. Like ai said, I don't doubt you at all, but something still doesn't make sense to me. Oh well.
Hopefully I will hit on everything you wrote/asked. I am not asking you to just believe me because you do not know me and I am not even trying to convince you. Only trying to share what is appropriate for me to share based on what I have been told. The dealer who bought the back half of the collection from the family is a member here as I have seen him post at one time. The guy who ended up with them, from him, and blowing up the pop report even more than it already was, is Evan Mathis. The dealer who told me about the back half of the BSF was brought in as a consultant before the cards were sold to Mathis. He is not someone who would make up something like this or lie to me. Further when he told me I was taken aback and relieved I did not make my BSF purchases.

I have no idea when the cards were divided up and if the family did it on their own or with Heritage and for all I know Heritage was only told about the 750 that they got. I have no idea how the back half of the cards graded as a whole but from what I was told..yeah I know...the condition of the cards was similar to the initial find. There were some lower grade cards that had stains on the back, poorly centered cards and cards with indentations and corner dings from storage but there were plenty of 8s and better.

I cannot speak for Heritage, the family or anyone else involved so I have no idea why it was kept quiet that there were twice as many cards in the find as initially reported. What I know is that Evan Mathis was grading and selling these and they were not cards he bought out of Heritage. I really think the family who held them had every intention of keeping them but then decided to cash out when they saw the numbers that were achieved. If Heritage knew this I guess it is for each of us to decide if we were mislead.

I think if you look at the pop report it would be easy to conclude that it was not 1s through 3s that were being graded since 2012 but 5s and above and the majority of the 4,000 cards graded are 5 and above. I have not looked that closely at the pop figures but glancing at them it appeared to look that way.
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Hopefully I will hit on everything you wrote/asked. I am not asking you to just believe me because you do not know me and I am not even trying to convince you. Only trying to share what is appropriate for me to share based on what I have been told. The dealer who bought the back half of the collection from the family is a member here as I have seen him post at one time. The guy who ended up with them, from him, and blowing up the pop report even more than it already was, is Evan Mathis. The dealer who told me about the back half of the BSF was brought in as a consultant before the cards were sold to Mathis. He is not someone who would make up something like this or lie to me. Further when he told me I was taken aback and relieved I did not make my BSF purchases.

I have no idea when the cards were divided up and if the family did it on their own or with Heritage and for all I know Heritage was only told about the 750 that they got. I have no idea how the back half of the cards graded as a whole but from what I was told..yeah I know...the condition of the cards was similar to the initial find. There were some lower grade cards that had stains on the back, poorly centered cards and cards with indentations and corner dings from storage but there were plenty of 8s and better.

I cannot speak for Heritage, the family or anyone else involved so I have no idea why it was kept quiet that there were twice as many cards in the find as initially reported. What I know is that Evan Mathis was grading and selling these and they were not cards he bought out of Heritage. I really think the family who held them had every intention of keeping them but then decided to cash out when they saw the numbers that were achieved. If Heritage knew this I guess it is for each of us to decide if we were mislead.

I think if you look at the pop report it would be easy to conclude that it was not 1s through 3s that were being graded since 2012 but 5s and above and the majority of the 4,000 cards graded are 5 and above. I have not looked that closely at the pop figures but glancing at them it appeared to look that way.
I know of one dealer who has seen the back half, I have no idea what the plan is for introduction into the market is but one has to be very careful about that. Imagine what introducing 50 more Red Cobb PSA 98's would do to the price.
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