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Old 02-20-2023, 10:13 PM
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I've never used the site; however, a few collectors have mentioned it on their podcasts.

Have you used the website and found it to be helpful as an informational resource?
I've used their checklists, which were helpful in keeping track of what I needed.

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Old 02-21-2023, 04:57 AM
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It's pretty good. But there are a ton of other sites. baseballcardpedia is good for the modern sets.

I have heard that sometimes submitters of checklists and variations to TCDB have created fakes and then listed them as real in TCDB. Not sure if it was for S&G, or some convoluted way to defraud people. But that seems to be more the exception than the rule, since it's crowdsourced.
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It's pretty good. But there are a ton of other sites. baseballcardpedia is good for the modern sets.

I have heard that sometimes submitters of checklists and variations to TCDB have created fakes and then listed them as real in TCDB. Not sure if it was for S&G, or some convoluted way to defraud people. But that seems to be more the exception than the rule, since it's crowdsourced.
I think it is a great website and have used it many many times for their checklists.

I have also seen some photoshopped cards on there listed as variations. My guess is for S&G. It did cause me to look for a nonexistent 55 Bowman variation for some time.
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Old 02-21-2023, 12:49 PM
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Generally good resources, that grows better with every day due to the crowdsourcing. It seems to be the likely winner of the crowdsource-card-checklisting idea websites.

It is generally better with modern cards than old.

I haven't caught photoshopped cards, but there are many checklist problems in more obscure or non-big sport sets from well-meaning editors who copy in information from the incorrect checklists that have been floating about online for years. For example, T220 is a disaster.
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It is the one place I have been able to find examples of rare modern Topps SP, SSP & pose variation cards
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I think it's a great resource, although I use it for post-WAR and modern instead of pre-war. I'm also a contributor, having uploaded over 700 scans myself.

I use to to answer questions like:

"What was that guy's first card?"

"What cards did that guy have that year?"

"What IS this card I'm holding?"
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Has anyone purchased a card from here with confidence? Especially worrying about potentially expensive Cabinet cards posted there.
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Has anyone purchased a card from here with confidence? Especially worrying about potentially expensive Cabinet cards posted there.
It’s a BST board like any other, caveat emptor.
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Old 02-21-2023, 04:24 PM
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I've never made a large purchase from there, but all the small purchases were great. Have traded a ton, too. That site is full of very friendly people, and there's finally a place for us to rid ourselves of junk era material to collectors who actually collect it! I highly recommend it. Just deal with people who are capable of prompt and courteous communication, keep your monetary transaction values small, and it's a great place.

If anyone decides to join in the fun and wants to add a ton of cards to their trade list on there, I would advise against using Google Chrome, as there are often issues with the site freezing or just general slowness. Firefox seems to work the best for me when adding tons of cards at one time. Edge isn't terrible, either, but stick with Firefox.
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Old 02-23-2023, 10:48 PM
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It's pretty good. But there are a ton of other sites. baseballcardpedia is good for the modern sets.

I have heard that sometimes submitters of checklists and variations to TCDB have created fakes and then listed them as real in TCDB. Not sure if it was for S&G, or some convoluted way to defraud people. But that seems to be more the exception than the rule, since it's crowdsourced.
So this thread seems to be largely at an end, but I really hope that no one has the misconception that TCDB is a vehicle for fraud or that it's on par with sites like Baseballcardpedia. I have to say that I'm really astounded by those statements, and respectfully wonder if the person who posted that is perhaps thinking of something else.

I just checked, and TCDB has a database of 17.7 million cards, all searchable. Aside from Beckett, no other online site has anything remotely approaching that number.

As one or two other posters mentioned, it's crowdsourced, so there's always some possibility of a user uploading bad information, but the moderators take their jobs VERY seriously there, and many complain that the site is actually too restrictive as to what can and cannot be added. From experience, I know that when other users alert the site to mistakes, they are quickly taken down.

I post this because I'd love to see more pre-war collectors over there. If anyone has issues about anything that's missing or can be improved, they very much have the option to add to or change things. As someone else mentioned, TCDB is the apparent winner of the card crowdsourcing competition, so this site will likely be with us for a very long time to come.
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So this thread seems to be largely at an end, but I really hope that no one has the misconception that TCDB is a vehicle for fraud or that it's on par with sites like Baseballcardpedia. I have to say that I'm really astounded by those statements, and respectfully wonder if the person who posted that is perhaps thinking of something else.

I just checked, and TCDB has a database of 17.7 million cards, all searchable. Aside from Beckett, no other online site has anything remotely approaching that number.

As one or two other posters mentioned, it's crowdsourced, so there's always some possibility of a user uploading bad information, but the moderators take their jobs VERY seriously there, and many complain that the site is actually too restrictive as to what can and cannot be added. From experience, I know that when other users alert the site to mistakes, they are quickly taken down.

I post this because I'd love to see more pre-war collectors over there. If anyone has issues about anything that's missing or can be improved, they very much have the option to add to or change things. As someone else mentioned, TCDB is the apparent winner of the card crowdsourcing competition, so this site will likely be with us for a very long time to come.
This was precisely the type of post I had hoped for when posting this thread. Thank you.
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I use it as an easy checklist tool.

I do find it annoying that the users there just take images from other websites and post them there without any reference to where the images came from. They have copied nearly every picture i have on my website of my Zeenut collection and it is now on tcdb. Pretty lame thing to do actually.
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I use it as an easy checklist tool.

I do find it annoying that the users there just take images from other websites and post them there without any reference to where the images came from. They have copied nearly every picture i have on my website of my Zeenut collection and it is now on tcdb. Pretty lame thing to do actually.
You can step into them and claim copyright protections. As an owner of the pictures, you have that right.
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We shall see how good/responsive they are. I just informed them through their "See any inaccuracies" function of some rather obvious errors in a couple of their set checklists, and an unreported error in one of the same sets that they do not list. I also inquired about another known set they do not list at all, and then mentioned an additional set that is uncatalogued, but known and documented through sales in a major auction house, and provided the links as proof.

I did not sign up as a member, and don't intend to. But if they do nothing and claim that my not formerly signing up/registering with them is a reason/excuse for them taking no action on very obvious errors, the problem and mistake clearly is on them! We'll see how good they are in monitoring and making any corrections and needed changes, and how quickly they act.

These are pre-war sets I'm talking about, not modern sets. I leave the modern stuff to sites like theirs, and have no opinion or comment on how good and accurate they are in their listings, descriptions, and checklists of such modern sets. Just surprised with all the errors I still come across on various sites regarding pre-war cards. You would think after all these years, and the decades of the SCD Catalogs, that there would be fewer, if any, errors still showing up in checklists for these old sets that other sites keep using/posting.

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You can step into them and claim copyright protections. As an owner of the pictures, you have that right.
Butch,

Is that actually true? For example, if you buy a card from an auction house that keeps an archive of their auctions, including images of items sold, up and online, how can you as the current owner of that card/item force them to take the image down, or otherwise ensure that no one else can/use copy the image?

Same thing I guess when someone posts an image here on the forum, how do you go about stopping someone else from copying and using it? Couldn't someone simply claim they acquired/copied the image prior to your taking ownership of the card/item? And of course, the legal cost of trying to go back at someone for such an infringement is not going to be nominal either, and would likely deter most people from ever really doing anything about someone else using their photos/images of cards/items they own.

I'm asking this as a serious question also, as I am not that knowledgeable when it comes to copyright laws and infringements in regard to photos and images of items owned by someone, especially when there can also be numerous photo/image copies all over the internet prior to someone's actually acquiring the original item/image itself.
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