1952 Rosen Mantle SGC 9.5 Final Price – Too high, too low, just right?

[Rhotchkiss]

So many haters on this site. Two guys (maybe this thread or another) are calling the guy heartless and blaming people freezing without electricity on whoever bought this card. Shoeless Moe is doubting its a real a sale because the winner is not all over the media -- why does the buyer need to announce himself? Other people have already decided its a forgone conclusion that this card will be flipped in 6 months to 2 years for profit. Why do you assume this, and even if its true, what's wrong with that?

Someone purchased an amazing example of a top 2 iconic baseball card. They had the money, and they paid up for it. Why are they cold/heartless, or seeking attention, or looking to make a quick buck? Why such negativity toward a record-breaking sale and the guy (or girl) who bought it? And remember, there was at least one bona fide under-bidder here, and likely several more above $10mm.

Sincere congratulations to whoever bought the SGC 9.5 Mantle. If I had the money, I would have been an active bidder. I think its an amazing card and I think this sale is good for cards and the industry.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

So many haters on this site. Two guys (maybe this thread or another) are calling the guy heartless and blaming people freezing without electricity on whoever bought this card. Shoeless Moe is doubting its a real a sale because the winner is not all over the media -- why does the buyer need to announce himself? Other people have already decided its a forgone conclusion that this card will be flipped in 6 months to 2 years for profit. Why do you assume this, and even if its true, what's wrong with that?

Someone purchased an amazing example of a top 2 iconic baseball card. They had the money, and they paid up for it. Why are they cold/heartless, or seeking attention, or looking to make a quick buck? Why such negativity toward a record-breaking sale and the guy (or girl) who bought it? And remember, there was at least one bona fide under-bidder here, and likely several more above $10mm.

Sincere congratulations to whoever bought the SGC 9.5 Mantle. If I had the money, I would have been an active bidder. I think its an amazing card and I think this sale is good for cards and the industry.

I think I must have missed the heartless post. Some are speculating it is to flip for a profit down the line because they spent $12,000,000 on a baseball card and that is what ends up happening with most 52 Mantles, they are bought and sold for a profit later down the line, and that profit is not a surprise. That isn't inherently bad, but it is. Most people spending $12,000,000 on a collectible care very deeply about it's value and believe it will rise.

Some expect the winner to be disclosed because that is what is usually done and the norm for huge sales like this; it becomes public knowledge. Heritage publicly discloses, and situates themselves in a place where it is legal too, bid in their own auctions and run items up often leading to speculation that they night have done what they say they can do and have done.


Disclaimers:

I do not care who bought it, and I do not care if Heritage got it on a shill bid. I do not care that someone chose to spend their $12,000,000 in this manner. Good for them. I hope they are happy. I don't need their name.

The 1952 Topps Mantle is a nice card and Mickey Mantle was a great player. This copy is a nice copy.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

I think I must have missed the heartless post. Some are speculating it is to flip for a profit down the line because they spent $12,000,000 on a baseball card and that is what ends up happening with most 52 Mantles, they are bought and sold for a profit later down the line, and that profit is not a surprise. That isn't inherently bad, but it is. Most people spending $12,000,000 on a collectible care very deeply about it's value and believe it will rise.

Some expect the winner to be disclosed because that is what is usually done and the norm for huge sales like this; it becomes public knowledge. Heritage publicly discloses, and situates themselves in a place where it is legal too, bid in their own auctions and run items up often leading to speculation that they night have done what they say they can do and have done.

Disclaimers:

I do not care who bought it, and I do not care if Heritage got it on a shill bid. I do not care that someone chose to spend their $12,000,000 in this manner. Good for them. I hope they are happy. I don't need their name.

The 1952 Topps Mantle is a nice card and Mickey Mantle was a great player. This copy is a nice copy.

A “nice card” and a “nice copy.” Or, put another way, the most iconic post-war card in the hobby and one of the best of its kind. These are where I don’t think I’m taking a position. I’ll go so bold as to say those are both objective facts.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Two guys (maybe this thread or another) are calling the guy heartless and blaming people freezing without electricity on whoever bought this card.

I must've missed that comment. Do you have a link?

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I must've missed that comment. Do you have a link?

Post #56 above (real tough to find)

"Thousands of people will die this winter because they can't afford gas or heating oil or electricity and will freeze to death and some guy spends millions on a friggin baseball card. I wonder if he gives a shit about them. I will guess he does not. The priorities of things has gone to hell."

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Post #56 above (real tough to find)

"Thousands of people will die this winter because they can't afford gas or heating oil or electricity and will freeze to death and some guy spends millions on a friggin baseball card. I wonder if he gives a shit about them. I will guess he does not. The priorities of things has gone to hell."

This comment doesn't say what you claimed. Where does the writer blame the Mantle winner for people freezing to death?

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by bobbystrawberry

this comment doesn't say what you claimed. Where does the writer blame the mantle winner for people freezing to death?

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[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

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Perhaps you should actually try reading members' comments before you start railing against them as "haters". (I guess it's "real tough to read"!)

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by bobbystrawberry

perhaps you should actually try reading members' comments before you start railing against them as "haters". (i guess it's "real tough to read"!)

Self-edited (see prior comment immediately below). Some people really get my goat. But ultimately it’s better to use the “block member” function than to cuss on a public forum.

[G1911]

I get that people are excited about record sales that could help produce profits on big cards or even middle cards as publicity is great, but the repeated hyperbole, misreading of anything not serving this purpose as hating, and more is extreme in these threads on this card.

Disclaimer: The 52 Mantle is a great card. Mabtle was a great player. I like it and I like him. This copy presents well. I hope all of you make tons of cash from your cards.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

So many haters on this site. Two guys (maybe this thread or another) are calling the guy heartless and blaming people freezing without electricity on whoever bought this card. Shoeless Moe is doubting its a real a sale because the winner is not all over the media -- why does the buyer need to announce himself? Other people have already decided its a forgone conclusion that this card will be flipped in 6 months to 2 years for profit. Why do you assume this, and even if its true, what's wrong with that?

Someone purchased an amazing example of a top 2 iconic baseball card. They had the money, and they paid up for it. Why are they cold/heartless, or seeking attention, or looking to make a quick buck? Why such negativity toward a record-breaking sale and the guy (or girl) who bought it? And remember, there was at least one bona fide under-bidder here, and likely several more above $10mm.

Sincere congratulations to whoever bought the SGC 9.5 Mantle. If I had the money, I would have been an active bidder. I think its an amazing card and I think this sale is good for cards and the industry.

I agree, except that I would not have been a bidder even if I had the money. Maybe save the venom for the real villains of the world. Like the Joker or the Riddler.

With all the vitriol being flung his way, I would not be surprised if the winner never makes his or her name public.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

So many haters on this site. Two guys (maybe this thread or another) are calling the guy heartless and blaming people freezing without electricity on whoever bought this card. Shoeless Moe is doubting its a real a sale because the winner is not all over the media -- why does the buyer need to announce himself? Other people have already decided its a forgone conclusion that this card will be flipped in 6 months to 2 years for profit. Why do you assume this, and even if its true, what's wrong with that?

Someone purchased an amazing example of a top 2 iconic baseball card. They had the money, and they paid up for it. Why are they cold/heartless, or seeking attention, or looking to make a quick buck? Why such negativity toward a record-breaking sale and the guy (or girl) who bought it? And remember, there was at least one bona fide under-bidder here, and likely several more above $10mm.

Sincere congratulations to whoever bought the SGC 9.5 Mantle. If I had the money, I would have been an active bidder. I think its an amazing card and I think this sale is good for cards and the industry.

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[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by rand1com

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[Snowman]

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[NYYFan63]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

So many haters on this site. Two guys (maybe this thread or another) are calling the guy heartless and blaming people freezing without electricity on whoever bought this card. Shoeless Moe is doubting its a real a sale because the winner is not all over the media -- why does the buyer need to announce himself? Other people have already decided its a forgone conclusion that this card will be flipped in 6 months to 2 years for profit. Why do you assume this, and even if its true, what's wrong with that?

Someone purchased an amazing example of a top 2 iconic baseball card. They had the money, and they paid up for it. Why are they cold/heartless, or seeking attention, or looking to make a quick buck? Why such negativity toward a record-breaking sale and the guy (or girl) who bought it? And remember, there was at least one bona fide under-bidder here, and likely several more above $10mm.

Sincere congratulations to whoever bought the SGC 9.5 Mantle. If I had the money, I would have been an active bidder. I think its an amazing card and I think this sale is good for cards and the industry.

I agree with you 100%. I was going to provide a similar response, but decided against it. Who are these people to say how the buyer/bidders spend their hard earned money? Cracks me up.


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[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by NYYFan63

I agree with you 100%. I was going to provide a similar response, but decided against it. Who are these people to say how the buyer/bidders spend their hard earned money? Cracks me up.


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I'd rather learn how they previously invested their hard earned money.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by NYYFan63

I agree with you 100%. I was going to provide a similar response, but decided against it. Who are these people to say how the buyer/bidders spend their hard earned money? Cracks me up.


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