Gun ownership poll

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by bnorth

NOBODY made fun of any bullet but YOU are the only one to make racist remarks so please stay gone.

I hate to re-engage but your yet again ridiculous post called for a response. You demeaned the shooter’s choice of ammo. You know, the shooter that killed a bunch of children, before you readily admitted you don’t pay attention to such things. It’s pretty awful. As for my “racist” posts, if your views are informed by being a minority or even a younger person growing up in an urban environment, send me your address and I will send you a great card free of charge. I think it would be better if we all just recognized we come from different environments a d experiences and we were not so quick to absolutely demonize the other side.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I hate to re-engage but your yet again ridiculous post called for a response. You demeaned the shooter’s choice of ammo. You know, the shooter that killed a bunch of children, before you readily admitted you don’t pay attention to such things. It’s pretty awful. As for my “racist” posts, if your views are informed by being a minority or even a younger person growing up in an urban environment, send me your address and I will send you a great card free of charge. I think it would be better if we all just recognized we come from different environments a d experiences and we were not so quick to absolutely demonize the other side.

You are the only one to criticize people based on age, sex, or race. You did all 3 at once.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

You are the only one to criticize people based on age, sex, or race. You did all 3 at once.

I did not criticize anyone based on those factors. You and your friend are the only ones making personal attacks. But as an aside, if your views are informed by being a minority I will send you a card. Send address.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I did not criticize anyone based on those factors. You and your friend are the only ones making personal attacks. But as an aside, if your views are informed by being a minority I will send you a card. Send address.

"Defender of persecuted white people" fits the profile quite well.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

"Defender of persecuted white people" fits the profile quite well.

What is wrong with you?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

What is wrong with you?

Same question to you.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Same question to you.

Race has nothing to do with this debate. There is nothing wrong with me for knowing this. You just like to screech and troll.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I did not criticize anyone based on those factors. You and your friend are the only ones making personal attacks. But as an aside, if your views are informed by being a minority I will send you a card. Send address.

Yes, you did.

And yes, you have made personal attacks. In actual fact, you joined the debate (after flip flopping from your first post) solely, as part of your bizarre cross-thread weirdness and little shots, to comment that you too think I am stupid. Which is fine, I lay no claim to intellect. But once again you are simply factually wrong. What else is new?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

Yes, you did.

And yes, you have made personal attacks. In actual fact, you joined the debate (after flip flopping from your first post) solely, as part of your bizarre cross-thread weirdness and little shots, to comment that you too think I am stupid. Which is fine, I lay no claim to intellect. But once again you are simply factually wrong. What else is new?

Good evidence.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I hate to re-engage but your yet again ridiculous post called for a response. You demeaned the shooter’s choice of ammo. You know, the shooter that killed a bunch of children, before you readily admitted you don’t pay attention to such things. It’s pretty awful. As for my “racist” posts, if your views are informed by being a minority or even a younger person growing up in an urban environment, send me your address and I will send you a great card free of charge. I think it would be better if we all just recognized we come from different environments a d experiences and we were not so quick to absolutely demonize the other side.

Pointing out the fact that the shooter's ammo wasn't as powerful as other ammo is not "demeaning" it. Or being insensitive. It is an attempt to bring factual information into this conversation.

Laws that govern people and protect their rights in society should be based in truth and logic, not simply emotion. Therefore, worthwhile discussions on the topic should likewise be based in truth, facts, and logic.

Why do you recoil (bad pun) from comments pointing out the shooter used comparatively low-power rounds? It's simply fact. In an honest discussion, facts like that are relevant.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Pointing out the fact that the shooter's ammo wasn't as powerful as other ammo is not "demeaning" it. Or being insensitive. It is an attempt to bring factual information into this conversation.

Laws that govern people and protect their rights in society should be based in truth and logic, not simply emotion. Therefore, worthwhile discussions on the topic should likewise be based in truth, facts, and logic.

Why do you recoil (bad pun) from comments pointing out the shooter used comparatively low-power rounds? It's simply fact. In an honest discussion, facts like that are relevant.

Saying “223s are baby ammo for rifles. If they are choosing them for their damage they are complete morons at best when it is one of the weakest rounds” isn’t comforting to parents who have lost kids. Perhaps the hunters here don’t realize it but these rounds have been effective at killing children.
Maybe they unsurprisingly weigh less than most deer you shoot. Either way, show a modicum of respect. No one is talking about banning ammo or even guns for that matter as far as I can tell. It would be nice if if we could make it slightly harder for someone to buy one of these weapons and use it a day or two later to kill children.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Saying “223s are baby ammo for rifles. If they are choosing them for their damage they are complete morons at best when it is one of the weakest rounds” isn’t comforting to parents who have lost kids.

You are looking at the issue emotionally. Some of us are being reasoned.

It is a tragedy when kids die, no matter how it happens. We all agree. You do not claim higher moral ground than anyone else in this thread, pretending someone else is insensitive because they make a factual statement regarding the weapon used.

A Swiss army knife is less powerful than a 12 inch meat cleaver or machete. Can we agree on that? The rounds fired from an AR-15 are likewise less potent than many other firearms out there. Just plain fact. But, since that fact upsets your anti AR-15 narrative, here's your opportunity to call ME insensitive (or whatever else your sidestep will be this time.)

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Mark17

You are looking at the issue emotionally. Some of us are being reasoned.

It is a tragedy when kids die, no matter how it happens. We all agree. You do not claim higher moral ground than anyone else in this thread, pretending someone else is insensitive because they make a factual statement regarding the weapon used.

A Swiss army knife is less powerful than a 12 inch meat cleaver or machete. Can we agree on that? The rounds fired from an AR-15 are likewise less potent than many other firearms out there. Just plain fact. But, since that fact upsets your anti AR-15 narrative, here's your opportunity to call ME insensitive (or whatever else your sidestep will be this time.)

What ammo isn’t going to kill or seriously a kid? What point are you or anyone else on “your side” trying to make?

[G1911]

1) Climb on pile of bodies to make political point while ignoring any other murders.

2) When faced with demands for a factual basis to your emotional appeals, make a claim to fact you pulled out of your ass or from your favorite left-wing op-ed.

3) Pretend it's true even though it isn't.

4) When 3 becomes untenable, insist it doesn't matter, and go back to 1.

5) When the loop between 4-1 becomes untenable, start screeching about race or abortions.

6) Repeat and restart the process the next day.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

1) Climb on pile of bodies to make political point while ignoring any other murders.

2) When faced with demands for a factual basis to your emotional appeals, make a claim to fact you pulled out of your ass or from your favorite left-wing op-ed.

3) Pretend it's true even though it isn't.

4) When 3 becomes untenable, insist it doesn't matter, and go back to 1.

5) When the loop between 4-1 becomes untenable, start screeching about race or abortions.

6) Repeat and restart the process the next day.

Actually so good. We are screwed.