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[G1911]

I cannot make out what make/model the 2 AR-15's the Uvalde shitbag posted are, the photos I've seen of this post he made with them are too grainy for me to read. An AR can be from $500-$5,000, usually under $1,500 unless you're trying to flex at the range. A complete Colt is about $1,000.

The reports I have read stated that he had a tactical vest and not body armor (but then again a whole lot of BS has been published about this case and half of what has been said has been walked back). You can get a vest for like $40 if you aren't going for the nice stuff. Body Armor costs more.

5.56x45mm ammunition is around .50 cents in free states like Texas if you shop around. He shot, according to the News reports that are often found to be inaccurate later, between 100 and "a few hundred" rounds in the engagement.

Magazines are $10-$20 a pop.

He probably didn't have $5-6K worth of stuff. Still a lot for a broke person, but from what I've seen it's closer to $2,000 USD.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Since he shot his grandmother in the face I assume he was staying with her.

Grandma was supposedly dirt poor as well, but I also assume he likely lived there for free? Allegedly, she asked him to help out more. Whether that was financially or doing work/earning his keep, or both, I don't know?

Originally Posted by G1911

I cannot make out what make/model the 2 AR-15's the Uvalde shitbag posted are, the photos I've seen of this post he made with them are too grainy for me to read. An AR can be from $500-$5,000, usually under $1,500 unless you're trying to flex at the range. A complete Colt is about $1,000.

The reports I have read stated that he had a tactical vest and not body armor (but then again a whole lot of BS has been published about this case and half of what has been said has been walked back). You can get a vest for like $40 if you aren't going for the nice stuff. Body Armor costs more.

5.56x45mm ammunition is around .50 cents in free states like Texas if you shop around. He shot, according to the News reports that are often found to be inaccurate later, between 100 and "a few hundred" rounds in the engagement.

Magazines are $10-$20 a pop.

He probably didn't have $5-6K worth of stuff. Still a lot for a broke person, but from what I've seen it's closer to $2,000 USD.

Supposedly they were Daniel Defense rifles, which aren't cheap, but then again, like you mentioned, so many stories/walk backs it isn't funny.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by irv

Supposedly they were Daniel Defense rifles, which aren't cheap, but then again, like you mentioned, so many stories/walk backs it isn't funny.

I had not heard that, that’s a pretty odd choice. DD’s are like $1,800+ just for the rifle. I retire my point now!

[irv]

Originally Posted by G1911

I had not heard that, that’s a pretty odd choice. DD’s are like $1,800+ just for the rifle. I retire my point now!

Exactly. He only needed a tool for what he planned but he purchased a piece of jewelry instead? It makes no sense if true?
Also, and you will know better, but haven't the Feds been after and demonizing Daniel Defense for years?
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05...t-gun-legally/
https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/daniel-d...005502081.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...shootings.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ip-nra-meeting

Lefty Media Already Targeting Daniel Defense, Manufacturer of AR Used in Uvalde Shooting
https://www.1911forum.com/threads/le...oting.1043743/
The comments in this article are quite...
https://soldiersystems.net/2013/11/3...ed-by-the-nfl/

[Cliff Bowman]

Exactly a week before the shooting and a day after his eighteenth birthday he bought a "semi-automatic rifle" at a local sporting goods store, the next day he went back and bought 375 rounds, two days after that he bought a $2,000 Daniel Defense AR style rifle, and he posted online that he bought a $725 battery-powered holographic sight. He also had a tactical vest without hardened body-armor plates. Can someone with knowledge estimate what the "semi-automatic rifle" in the photo, the 375 rounds, and an average tactical vest go for?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Exactly a week before the shooting and a day after his eighteenth birthday he bought a "semi-automatic rifle" at a local sporting goods store, the next day he went back and bought 375 rounds, two days after that he bought a $2,000 Daniel Defense AR style rifle, and he posted online that he bought a $725 battery-powered holographic sight. He also had a tactical vest without hardened body-armor plates. Can someone with knowledge estimate what the "semi-automatic rifle" in the photo, the 375 rounds, and an average tactical vest go for?

$725 is about right for that optic.

I can’t make out the manufacturer marks in the photos, but I have glasses for a reason. A DD is right around $2K though

375 rounds of 5.56x45 is about ~$200 these days.

A tactical vest is usually $30-$250 depending on what make. It’s basically just a vest with pouches sized for rifle magazines, a radio, and sometimes a handgun. It’s really nothing fancy. Mine was like $100 (you need somewhere to put your mags in competition).

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by G1911

$725 is about right for that optic.

I can’t make out the manufacturer marks in the photos, but I have glasses for a reason. A DD is right around $2K though

375 rounds of 5.56x45 is about ~$200 these days.

A tactical vest is usually $30-$250 depending on what make. It’s basically just a vest with pouches sized for rifle magazines, a radio, and sometimes a handgun. It’s really nothing fancy. Mine was like $100 (you need somewhere to put your mags in competition).

I found more information, the first rifle is a Smith and Wesson M&P 15, the $2,000 rifle is specifically a Daniel Defense M4 V7, and he had approximately 1,600 total rounds. He begged his sister to buy a rifle for him in 2021 because he was underage but she refused, so apparently he had been saving up for a few years and had this planned for quite a while.

[nwobhm]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Exactly a week before the shooting and a day after his eighteenth birthday he bought a "semi-automatic rifle" at a local sporting goods store, the next day he went back and bought 375 rounds, two days after that he bought a $2,000 Daniel Defense AR style rifle, and he posted online that he bought a $725 battery-powered holographic sight. He also had a tactical vest without hardened body-armor plates. Can someone with knowledge estimate what the "semi-automatic rifle" in the photo, the 375 rounds, and an average tactical vest go for?

556 is around 60 cents a round. So he bought under $250 worth after factoring in sales tax.

DD rifles MSRP is around $2k.

The vest wouldn’t have been very expensive. The plates are where the cost goes up quickly.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

556 is around 60 cents a round. So he bought under $250 worth after factoring in sales tax.

DD rifles MSRP is around $2k.

The vest wouldn’t have been very expensive. The plates are where the cost goes up quickly.

Thank you. I found more information from other articles that the first rifle is a Smith and Wesson that goes for $800 and that he bought 1,600 total rounds, so at 60 cents a round that comes out to $960 which raises my original estimated total of $4,500 a little bit, but if he bought a cheap tactical vest for $30 rather than my guesstimate of $100 that would bring it back to around $4,500. Since money didn’t seem to be a concern to him I imagine he bought a pretty decent tactical vest, though.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by irv

Exactly. He only needed a tool for what he planned but he purchased a piece of jewelry instead? It makes no sense if true?
Also, and you will know better, but haven't the Feds been after and demonizing Daniel Defense for years?
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05...t-gun-legally/
https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/daniel-d...005502081.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...shootings.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ip-nra-meeting

Lefty Media Already Targeting Daniel Defense, Manufacturer of AR Used in Uvalde Shooting
https://www.1911forum.com/threads/le...oting.1043743/
The comments in this article are quite...
https://soldiersystems.net/2013/11/3...ed-by-the-nfl/

Yeah, that’s pretty odd, I’m with you. A DD is a very well made rifle, but you’re paying a bit for the name too. The elevated cost is not all in better parts, or better fitting.

The media always comes after the manufacturer every time. Obviously DD does not like these tragedies anymore than we do.