Hey, pennant guys

[bocca001]

In my opinion, the VET pennants are relatively rare and unusual given how easy it is to find ASCO pennants of the same age. The version of Giants and Astros pennants marked with VET is rare when actually marked with "VET", but maybe even more rare when not (i.e., same pennant, not mark). I've seen some, but don't have any (vet colors/design, no vet mark). The vet versions also have a bit more color/design than the typical Giants/Astros ASCO pennant.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

In my opinion, the VET pennants are relatively rare and unusual given how easy it is to find ASCO pennants of the same age. The version of Giants and Astros pennants marked with VET is rare when actually marked with "VET", but maybe even more rare when not (i.e., same pennant, not mark). I've seen some, but don't have any (vet colors/design, no vet mark). The vet versions also have a bit more color/design than the typical Giants/Astros ASCO pennant.

I can tell you, the first pennants I ever got were VET pennants as a six or seven year old … mid to late 70s .. at Veterans Stadium. The VET pennants are all stiff and are often cut crooked.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by bocca001

In my opinion, the VET pennants are relatively rare and unusual given how easy it is to find ASCO pennants of the same age. The version of Giants and Astros pennants marked with VET is rare when actually marked with "VET", but maybe even more rare when not (i.e., same pennant, not mark). I've seen some, but don't have any (vet colors/design, no vet mark). The vet versions also have a bit more color/design than the typical Giants/Astros ASCO pennant.

Note that, of these two Giants pennants, one is marked "VET"; and the other bears ASCO's mark.

Here's four Dodger pennants from that same series/era. One bears ASCO's mark; the other Madaras' mark; next one shows "VET / MADE IN USA"; and the last simply reads "MADE IN USA" (No mention of VET). I've also seen a fifth variant bearing no mark at all--just an MLB logo and the year "1969"; and sixth variant with no MLB logo or date or maker's mark--absolutely nothing (probably from 1968, before the league cracked down on licensing).

Regardless, I think all six were made by either ASCO or Madaras; including the "VET" ones, which I suspect was simply a concessionaire's mark used by one of these companies.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by bocca001

In my opinion, the VET pennants are relatively rare and unusual given how easy it is to find ASCO pennants of the same age. The version of Giants and Astros pennants marked with VET is rare when actually marked with "VET", but maybe even more rare when not (i.e., same pennant, not mark). I've seen some, but don't have any (vet colors/design, no vet mark). The vet versions also have a bit more color/design than the typical Giants/Astros ASCO pennant.

Wow

Those Astros Pennants really pop.

The orange and the graphics works well

[ooo-ribay]

Another dye job on some not too valuable pennants. In fact, I just picked up the "crossed bats" for $23. Speaking of that pennant, did other teams use this design? It would seem they would have.

I used almost a gallon of dye solution on these two pennants . I'll bet I sprayed them (from the back) over 20 times. Note: the spines haven't been re-sewn, yet.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Another dye job on some not too valuable pennants. In fact, I just picked up the "crossed bats" for $23. Speaking of that pennant, did other teams use this design? It would seem they would have.

I used almost a gallon of dye solution on these two pennants . I'll bet I sprayed them (from the back) over 20 times. Note: the spines haven't been re-sewn, yet.

Incredible improvement. Really nice job Rob.

How long did the entire process take from start to finish?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Incredible improvement. Really nice job Rob.

How long did the entire process take from start to finish?

I started after I came home from the bar , 9 hours of sleep, finished up by 5:00 the next afternoon.

I remember being disappointed in the Polo Grounds pennant when I got it 25 years ago. This was pre-ebay and I would buy pennants, sight unseen, from Bob Rothschild’s SCD ads.

[ooo-ribay]

Some more pics. The spines were nasty, too. I also guess I never realized that tassels are one piece of felt, folded over. Neither of these are "display pennants," so I just spray glued the spines back on and called it good. I gotta go through my SFG pennants...I may have a green, "Giant on the bridge" pennant that needs freshening up. I think green was as bad as blue, when it comes to fading.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Another dye job on some not too valuable pennants. In fact, I just picked up the "crossed bats" for $23. Speaking of that pennant, did other teams use this design? It would seem they would have.

I used almost a gallon of dye solution on these two pennants . I'll bet I sprayed them (from the back) over 20 times. Note: the spines haven't been re-sewn, yet.

Great job Rob.

With regards to the Cross Bat design....I've catalogued 1,360 pennants in the latest version of the Pennant Catalog here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1poP...ew?usp=sharing

The crossed bat theme is used in a number of pennants, but the giants are the only one that I've seen that use that specific layout. The closest that I've seen is a Hall of Fame pennant (HOF008-TBC) that uses crossed bats with glove and ball.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Great job Rob.

With regards to the Cross Bat design....I've catalogued 1,360 pennants in the latest version of the Pennant Catalog here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1poP...ew?usp=sharing

The crossed bat theme is used in a number of pennants, but the giants are the only one that I've seen that use that specific layout. The closest that I've seen is a Hall of Fame pennant (HOF008-TBC) that uses crossed bats with glove and ball.

That's surprising. Aside from the baseball incorporated into the "G", the bats, glove and mask is a very simple design I would have thought to be used by other teams.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

That's surprising. Aside from the baseball incorporated into the "G", the bats, glove and mask is a very simple design I would have thought to be used by other teams.

Rob’s national league champs pennant seems to be of that mystery maker that we have discussed recently. I do believe Kyle when he says the Trench used that design, but it’s the construction is very unique and unlike Trench. You can see that the spine has sort of a “two ply“ material, not quite felt and not cloth. And this is similar to the World Series Pennants from 1954 through 57 that list both teams, all cloth and all are hard to find unfaded. I believe it is also the same maker as that 1956 NFL championship Pennant that just sold.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Rob’s national league champs pennant seems to be of that mystery maker that we have discussed recently. I do believe Kyle when he says the Trench used that design, but it’s the construction is very unique and unlike Trench. You can see that the spine has sort of a “two ply“ material, not quite felt and not cloth. And this is similar to the World Series Pennants from 1954 through 57 that list both teams, all cloth and all are hard to find unfaded. I believe it is also the same maker as that 1956 NFL championship Pennant that just sold.

The spine is strange. I put it in a weak bleach solution and it damn near fell apart. It also “grew” about an inch in length.