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Old 08-19-2021, 06:51 AM
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Old 08-19-2021, 07:21 AM
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I don't really understand why people would want to defend this. Out of everyone who speaks about Ohtani on television, only he chose to use a mock accent. It was totally avoidable and I don't think anything is lost by tossing that behavior to the wayside. I have no doubt it was an attempt at a cheap laugh, but I can't help but ask why? His apology didn't help himself either.

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Old 08-19-2021, 07:38 AM
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I don't really understand why people would want to defend this. Out of everyone who speaks about Ohtani on television, only he chose to use a mock accent. It was totally avoidable and I don't think anything is lost by tossing that behavior to the wayside. I have no doubt it was an attempt at a cheap laugh, but I can't help but ask why? His apology didn't help himself either.
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I was happy he didn't lose his job though, unless I missed something. I read he has to undergo diversity training or something like that. I think too many announcers are being canned too quickly for the first offense.

This also reminds me of the Colorado Rockies game two weeks ago. Half the audience heard the N word, while half the audience heard Dinger, the Rockies mascot.

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Old 08-19-2021, 07:51 AM
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I think the lesson learned here is that cheap laughs are cheap for a reason. They're not funny and you could just not do that. While people might say "what's the big deal?" a better question would be "don't you realize you're not just talking to your buddies when you're on TV"?

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I think the lesson learned here is that cheap laughs are cheap for a reason. They're not funny and you could just not do that. While people might say "what's the big deal?" a better question would be "don't you realize you're not just talking to your buddies when you're on TV"?
Yeah. I'm a high school teacher. I routinely try to get my high school boys to understand audience. Jokes said to buddies at lunch is a much different audience than a classroom with kids, some of whom might not like you. And school is a different audience than parents/ grandparents. But a lot of my students want to be the same person to everyone they come in contact with. They tell me it's more honest. In my experience, a lot of arguments against PC stem from this idea about having to speak toward different audiences.

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I don't think he was imitating Elmer Fudd.
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Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings anymore. Now they often give participation ribbons to all entries so they don't feel bad if they were not in top three.
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Yeah. I'm a high school teacher. I routinely try to get my high school boys to understand audience. Jokes said to buddies at lunch is a much different audience than a classroom with kids, some of whom might not like you. And school is a different audience than parents/ grandparents. But a lot of my students want to be the same person to everyone they come in contact with. They tell me it's more honest. In my experience, a lot of arguments against PC stem from this idea about having to speak toward different audiences.

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I hope you remind your students that they will one day join the work force and it won't matter how they feel about being honest. Every office comes with the same professional expectations and Jack Morris was a guy at work.
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Yeah. I'm a high school teacher. I routinely try to get my high school boys to understand audience. Jokes said to buddies at lunch is a much different audience than a classroom with kids, some of whom might not like you. And school is a different audience than parents/ grandparents. But a lot of my students want to be the same person to everyone they come in contact with. They tell me it's more honest. In my experience, a lot of arguments against PC stem from this idea about having to speak toward different audiences.

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You're completely right, audience matters, and always has. If they let women in the locker room, of course you're going to tone it down out of decency and respect. And so on. That's just common sense, not being PC.
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I'm half Asian and yes, what Morris said, the way he said it is offensive. When I was younger I looked more Asian and white kids would pull their eyes back and talk in that same Charlie Chan accent to try and insult me or something. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what they were trying to accomplish as I'm half "white" too.

Anyway, I'm personally cool with Morris' apology and him getting a couple of days off. Lesson learned.

At my job I had a prominent customer come in and talk about his race horse, who is standing at stud in Japan and he talked about the foals "...not coming out with buck teeth and slanted eyes...so I guess that's OK..."

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I think the lesson learned here is that cheap laughs are cheap for a reason. They're not funny and you could just not do that. While people might say "what's the big deal?" a better question would be "don't you realize you're not just talking to your buddies when you're on TV"?
Dammit Packs I agree with you a lot (except about Corey Dickerson) It was more fun to disagree with you about players than it is to agree with you on almost anything else.

In this case, more than racism, or being offensive, he should be punished for a stunning lack of judgement. Basically who in their right mind doesn't know, in this day and age, that doing what he did on TV would not be acceptable? More than anything else his crime was stupidity.
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