ebay finds that PWCC engaged in shill bidding?

[Bigdaddy]

Just coming across this now.

Somehow, this thread reminds me of the mound meeting in Bull Durham - "We're dealing with a lot of s#!+"

[Steve D]

Now, ebay has removed the card I won, a 1952 Topps Warren Spahn, from my account.

So it looks like if you have won an item from PWCC this month, and have not yet paid for it, ebay is cancelling it.

Steve

[The Nasty Nati]

Now that Watchcount doesn't exist for checking cards and PWCC has been axed from eBay, I'm guessing they won't be doing their Market Research thing where you can see sold ebay listings going back years. So how do we get that information now?

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Steve D

Now, ebay has removed the card I won, a 1952 Topps Warren Spahn, from my account.

So it looks like if you have won an item from PWCC this month, and have not yet paid for it, ebay is cancelling it.

Steve

That kind of sucks! I guess they figure since they booted PWCC they don't want to potentially be on the hook if you pay them and they don't follow through and send you the card. What could Ebay do to PWCC in that case?

So I wonder what happens to people that did pay and haven't gotten their cards yet?

Also, what is to stop someone who just got a card from PWCC filing with Ebay to say they never got it? Not like PWCC will be cooperating with Ebay anytime soon now. Will Ebay step up and honor those alleged non-received cards? Can't see PWCC ignoring a customer who actually didn't receive a card, but under the circumstances can see someone making a false claim of non-receipt against PWCC as well. Don't think Ebay or PWCC want to tick off any customers any more than they already have given the circumstances.

Don't know, but was PWCC already using Ebay's managed payment program, or had they not switched yet? Can imagine Ebay trying to freeze their funds as long as possible to mitigate any such claims. This could be interesting as well.

[53toppscollector]

just checked, the 3 t206 that i won a few nights ago i had already paid for and they already shipped. guess i made it in under the deadline

[Peter_Spaeth]

Not every day 20,000 auctions or whatever it was get zapped. And with no notice it appears.

[irv]

My gut tells me this is eBays way of trying to damage PWCC's rep for leaving.

They likely have lots of proof of shilling, and other shenanigans, regarding PWCC but because of the cash flow, never cashed that card in, until now.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by irv

My gut tells me this is eBays way of trying to damage PWCC's rep for leaving.

They likely have lots of proof of shilling, and other shenanigans, regarding PWCC but because of the cash flow, never cashed that card in, until now.

Yeah maybe Brentsy pushed their luck taking their high end auction offsite. I am sure the revenue was nice but come on, this is ebay, a company with a market cap of 50 billion dollars.