Goldin Auctions.Are they down

[mrreality68]

Hi

I am unable to access Goldin Auctions site as of 950pm. I have tried multiple different devices.
Is anyone else having this issue

Thanks

[mrreality68]

30 minutes later
just got an email from Goldin that the system is down at the moment

[dio]

I think every time is like this. These ppl need to spend a little mobey to fix this. Come on

[BRoberts]

What does Bob Freedman know?

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by dio

I think every time is like this. These ppl need to spend a little mobey to fix this. Come on

Seriously, Kenny, take some of those millions in commissions and get a better platform. Good grief.

[chadeast]

Sounds like this will be their last auction with their current software platform, per latest email. As big as they are, this is really their only option moving forward.

[Goldin Auctions]

This was sent to all bidders

Dear Goldin Auctions Users
The extended bidding period will begin at 11:15pm eastern. Extended bidding rules apply.
If there are further interruptions we will act accordingly.
We have been developing an in house technology platform and this is the last auction that we will be running on third party software. Authenticity and trust is the foundation on which Goldin is built and tonight we let all of you down.

We apologize for this inconvenience and know that we will be working around the clock until we have our own platform live. We have to do better and we will.
https://goldinauctions.com/catalog.aspx

[Fred]

What are the reasons that auction houses use a third party auction platform?

Is one of the reasons to allow bidders to feel safe that an auction house has limited opportunity to manipulate the outcome of an auction?

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by Fred

What are the reasons that auction houses use a third party auction platform?

Is one of the reasons to allow bidders to feel safe that an auction house has limited opportunity to manipulate the outcome of an auction?

Cost, plain and simple. Developing and maintaining a custom auction platform is a very expensive proposition. Only the biggest auction houses would be able to consider that kind of expenditure.

[Republicaninmass]

Ken should go back to the home shopping channel. Then people will still have time to get these amazing deals and they wont have any interruptions.

[jbsports33]

This was the reason I never started my own auction site and kept selling at shows and on eBay. With all the other BS and now server issues, I am glad I did not go any further. Have had the auction software before and you almost need a full time person just for IT issues everyday. I will take a step further and have some items on my website, just too much time and effort to have an auction these days. Hopefully at some point they will all get it figured out!

Jimmy

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by chadeast

Sounds like this will be their last auction with their current software platform, per latest email. As big as they are, this is really their only option moving forward.

This should be a really good thing. Their own platform and their own IT team means greater control and faster response time
Looking forward to it

[obiwan1129]

Don't be too sure about that. In theory, the 3rd party folks are *supposed* to be well versed in this. The reason someone goes 3rd party is to not re-invent the wheel and benefit from their knowledge. I wouldn't expect baseball card experts to be software developers. I mean they may, but it's not what I would expect.

Taking it in house and rolling your own can be advantageous but it will be version 1.0 for them when they get started. There's an old saying, "Version 1.0 means never having to say you're sorry." Expect some more bumps in the road.

I know we all want folks to succeed, just acknowledge that getting software right is hard.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by obiwan1129

Don't be too sure about that. In theory, the 3rd party folks are *supposed* to be well versed in this. The reason someone goes 3rd party is to not re-invent the wheel and benefit from their knowledge. I wouldn't expect baseball card experts to be software developers. I mean they may, but it's not what I would expect.

Taking it in house and rolling your own can be advantageous but it will be version 1.0 for them when they get started. There's an old saying, "Version 1.0 means never having to say you're sorry." Expect some more bumps in the road.

I know we all want folks to succeed, just acknowledge that getting software right is hard.

True, but that assumes they are going to design and build their own auction software from the ground up. I'll bet there are auction software packages, already written and tested, that they could purchase off the shelf, customize it, and put it on their own (robust) server platform.

It seems to me that most of the problems from last year and this year are mostly:

1. Hosting site was hacked and code hijacked.
2. Server robustness inadequate to handle huge volumes of activity as auctions neared closing.

Start with a new, clean instance of complete, high-quality auction software, customize to an AH's needs, import legacy data, integrate with outside platforms (for instance, 3rd party paying like PayPal,) test it like crazy by having a mock auction (invite net54 members plus existing AH customers to participate in a fake, fantasy auction to stress test the system,) and you should have a good chance of success going forward.

And above all, make security and redundancy (backup servers, etc.) a central part of operations.

With the infusion of cash Goldin recently negotiated, they can easily and cost effectively get where they want to be.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Ken should go back to the home shopping channel. Then people will still have time to get these amazing deals and they wont have any interruptions.

With their new association with PSA that would be awesome to watch. They could make the old days look like childs play.

[Goldin Auctions]

Here is a lot of info on prices realized from session 1 since not viewable yet.
Over 1700 lots close tonight session2 at https://goldinauctions.com/catalog.aspx

World Records:
Lot 1 - 1996-97 Topps Chrome Refractors #138 Kobe Bryant Rookie Card – BGS PRISTINE/Black Label 10 = $1,795,800
Lot 3 - 1955 Topps #164 Roberto Clemente Rookie Card – PSA MINT 9 = $1,107,000
Lot 4 - 2003-04 UD "Exquisite Collection" Exquisite (RPA) #78 LeBron James Signed Patch Rookie Card (#32/99) – BGS NM-MT+ 8.5/BGS 10 = $1,537,500
Lot 6 - 2004-05 Upper Deck "Ultimate Signatures Logos" #USL-LJ LeBron James Signed Logoman Game Used Patch Card (#1/1) – PSA Authentic, PSA/DNA 10 = $1,291,500
Lot 8 - 1984-85 Star #101 Michael Jordan "UDA Flight School" Signed Rookie Card (UDA) – BGS MINT 9/BGS 10 = $430,500
Lot 18 - 2007/08 UD "Exquisite Collection" Rookie Parallel #94 Kevin Durant Signed Patch Rookie Card (#23/35) – BGS MINT 9/BGS 10 = $799,500
Lot 20 - 2018-19 Panini National Treasures Patch Autograph (RPA) #127 Luka Doncic Signed Patch Rookie Card (#83/99) - PSA GEM MT 10, PSA/DNA 10 = $584,250
Lot 24 - 2001 SP Authentic Golf "Authentic Stars" Autograph Gold #45 Tiger Woods Signed Rookie Card (#078/100) – PSA GEM MT 10 = $344,400
Lot 65 - 1948 Leaf #79 Jackie Robinson Rookie Card – PSA NM 7 = $402,210
Lot 66 - 1951 Bowman #305 Willie Mays Rookie Card – PSA NM MT 8 = $346,860
Lot 67 - 1951 Bowman #253 Mickey Mantle Rookie Card – PSA NM-MT 8 = $615,000 = TIED
Lot 71 - 1952 Topps #312 Jackie Robinson – PSA MINT 9 = $984,000
Lot 73 - 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle Rookie Card – PSA VG-EX 4 = $148,830
Lot 79 - 1957-58 Topps #77 Bill Russell SP Rookie Card – PSA NM-MT 8 = $346,860
Lot 81 - 1958 Alifabolaget #635 Pele Rookie Card – PSA GD 2 = $62,730
Lot 84 - 1966 Topps USA Test #35 Bobby Orr Rookie Card – PSA NM-MT 8 = $87,330
Lot 87 - 1969-70 Topps #25 Lew Alcindor Rookie Card – PSA NM-MT 8 = $75,030
Lot 98 - 1976 Topps #148 Walter Payton Rookie Card – PSA GEM MT 10 = $124,230
Lot 99 - 1977 Futbol (Soccer) Discs #11 Diego Armando Maradona Rookie Card – PSA NM 7 "1 of 3!" = $161,130
Lot 100 - 1978 Topps #36 Eddie Murray Rookie Card – PSA GEM MT 10 = $59,040
Lot 108 - 1984-85 Star #101 Michael Jordan Rookie Card - PSA NM-MT 8 = $162,360
Lot 146 - 1996/97 Topps Chrome Refractor #138 Kobe Bryant Rookie Card – PSA MINT 9 = $118,080
Lot 149 - 1996-97 E-X2000 "Credentials" #30 Kobe Bryant Rookie Card (#442/499) – BGS MINT 9 = $174,660
Lot 215 - 2004-05 Panini Megacracks #71 Lionel Messi La Liga Rookie Card - BGS GEM MT 9.5 = $99,630
Lot 236 - 2007-08 Topps Chrome White Refractor #131 Kevin Durant Rookie Card (#84/99) – PSA GEM MT 10 = $295,200
Lot 270 - 2012-13 Panini National Treasures Gold #151 Anthony Davis Signed Patch Rookie Card (#1/5) - BGS GEM MINT 9.5/BGS 10 = $185,730
Lot 284 - 2014 Top Shot Giannis Antetokounmpo Highlight (#001/275) - The Only NBA Top Shot Moment Of His 2013-14 Rookie Season = $136,530
Lot 372 - 2019 Panini National Treasures #163 Josh Allen Signed NFL Shield Patch Rookie Card (#1/1) – BGS MINT 9/BGS 10 = $210,330

Notable:
Lot 2 - 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle Rookie Card – PSA NM-MT 8 – One of the Hobby's Very Best PSA NM-MT 8 Examples! = $1,353,000
Lot 9 - 1986-87 Fleer #57 Michael Jordan Rookie Card – PSA GEM MT 10 = $615,000
Lot 10 - 1986-87 Fleer #57 Michael Jordan Rookie Card – PSA GEM MT 10 = $615,000
Lot 13 - 1986-87 Fleer Basketball Unopened Wax Box (36 Packs) – All-Original, as Issued by Fleer! – BBCE Certified = $344,400
Lot 166 - 1998-99 Skybox Molten Metal Fusion Titanium #41F Michael Jordan (#19/40) – BGS MINT 9 = $198,030
Lot 183 - 2003/04 Upper Deck Basketball "Exquisite Collection" Unopened Hobby Box = $105,780
Lot 232 - 2006-07 Upper Deck SP Authentic #LM-LJ LeBron James Game Used Logoman Patch Card (#1/1) - BGS NM-MT+ 8.5 = $150,060
Lot 251 - 2009-10 Panini National Treasures Rookie Patch Autograph (RPA) #206 Stephen Curry Signed Patch Rookie Card (#70/99) – BGS MINT 9/BGS 10 = $369,000
Lot 392 - 2019-20 Panini Flawless "Logoman" #LM-LBJ LeBron James Game Used Patch Card (#1/1) – BGS MINT 9 = $211,560

[dio]

That 52 Topps mantle PSA 8 is a bad 8. There's very noticeable yellowish in the signature box. Not sure when graded is like this or turn yellow after graded

[bigfanNY]

The Prices Goldin Auctions has gotten over the past few years have risen the bar for every collector. Going up against Hackers determined to hurt the ability of collectors to conduct normal business. Is just an extremely difficult task. I would not wish it on anyone. And as both a Consignor and long time customer of Goldin Auctions I hope that their taking their auction software in-house makes it easier and safer for us all.
My understanding is Goldin and many other auction houses as well as Simple Auction software are the victim of serious and very sophisticated crimes. Committed by very serious criminals. Orginized crime many times on an international level attacking not just auction houses and by extention all of us here, but virtually every business in our country. Why do some feel it is ok to bash the victims of these crimes? Clearly the majority of these victims are forced to spend time money etc. To fight those committing these crimes. And maybe insted of blaming the victims a little support would be in order.
I will not let internet terrorism deter me from conducting business and enjoying my hobby despite the small inconvenience to me. And I will stand up and next to victims of these crimes.
Jonathan Sterling

[Fred]

All I can say is OMG to the realized prices. I must live in a vacuum.

[dio]

Originally Posted by Fred

All I can say is OMG to the realized prices. I must live in a vacuum.

Those ultra high end stuff is rich man's game now.
Just get used to it

[RedsFan1941]

thank you for your courage johnathan.

[notfast]

I guess the hammer price + 23% is what the “realized price” is?

Is tax included too? Appears the credit card fee is.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by notfast

I guess the hammer price + 23% is what the “realized price” is?

Is tax included too? Appears the credit card fee is.

Tax is not included and varies by state from which you purchase

[Casey2296]

Interesting that the 52 Jackie going for just under a million didn't make the notable list. Tough crowd.

[Goldin Auctions]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Interesting that the 52 Jackie going for just under a million didn't make the notable list. Tough crowd.

made the record list, its lot 71

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Goldin Auctions

made the record list, its lot 71

Ah, I missed the world record part, good list to be on, congratulations. Makes me wonder what this would sell for.

[chriskim]

Consigned some items to Goldin and they will end tonight. So far, the current high bids already exceed my expectation. Thank you Goldin!

[Snapolit1]

[QUOTE=RedsFan1941;2077994]thank you for your courage johnathan.[/

Lol. That cracked me up.

[Republicaninmass]

"World records "

Well if they had bidding on Mars, it would be the record there too.

[notfast]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Tax is not included and varies by state from which you purchase

The listed “sale” prices include an additional 3%. Just did the math.

Lot 65 - 1948 Leaf #79 Jackie Robinson Rookie Card – PSA NM 7 = $402,210

This cards hammer price was $327,000. 20% buyers premium = 392,400. Additional 3% puts it at 402,210.

Guess you gotta milk every extra % out when you’re breaking “WORLD RECORDS” even if that 3% only exists when paying via credit card.

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by Fred

All I can say is OMG to the realized prices. I must live in a vacuum.

Me too Fred.

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by notfast

The listed “sale” prices include an additional 3%. Just did the math.

Lot 65 - 1948 Leaf #79 Jackie Robinson Rookie Card – PSA NM 7 = $402,210

This cards hammer price was $327,000. 20% buyers premium = 392,400. Additional 3% puts it at 402,210.

Guess you gotta milk every extra % out when you’re breaking “WORLD RECORDS” even if that 3% only exists when paying via credit card.

Why you gotta hate man?
It's freakin awesome that there are people who think sportscards are SO wonderful they will spend entirely incomprehensible sums on them.
How that pans out for them is not my problem or your problem.
Sportscards have stepped out into the brilliant sunshine to become the most highly valued collectable on the planet.
I love cards so that makes me smile.

Doesn't change one bit what I will or won't spend.
That's on me.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

Sportscards have stepped out into the brilliant sunshine to become the most highly valued collectable on the planet.

All but the crap I have...

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by Fred

All but the crap I have...

I got some of that too!

[Topnotchsy]

The prices across the hobby have been remarkable, and over the last year, Goldin has definitely taken a big step at the head of the sports auction world. Congrats and Kudos to Ken for that, and here's to hoping that the new platform means the end of the issues.

I won the 1 item I was really chasing, so I'm happy. Thankfully it wasn't something that drew crazy attention since my wallet is a tiny fraction of those bigtime sales.

[Santo10Fan]

Just checked on a tracked item PSA 3 Green Cobb and Goldin says it closed at $500. What a steal!

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by Santo10Fan

Just checked on a tracked item PSA 3 Green Cobb and Goldin says it closed at $500. What a steal!

Uhm, kidding right....?

If the card you were following was in the Lots that closed last night, the only prices posted until the entirety of the Auction has closed is the opening price.
If the PSA1 Green Cobb just closed for 4K, I think it's safe to say the PSA3 went significantly higher.

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

Uhm, kidding right....?

If the card you were following was in the Lots that closed last night, the only prices posted until the entirety of the Auction has closed is the opening price.
If the PSA1 Green Cobb just closed for 4K, I think it's safe to say the PSA3 went significantly higher.

You are correct! I think it closed OT in between my updates.