PWCC auction - OJ Bid McPhee

[h2oya311]

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[oldjudge]

I never realized how close these two guys look. These two poses are not the best at making out the player’s faces. One difference, however, is the sleeves. If you look at the cuffs you will notice that McPhee’s are rolled over once, like the jersey was a little long. Fennelly’s sleeves don’t exhibit this.

[h2oya311]

looks like the lot was pulled from eBay. Kudos to the find and, dare I say it, to PWCC for pulling the listing.

[buymycards]

I thought that every card passes through 3 separate graders and all 3 agreed on this? And I wonder about the person who submitted it to PWCC? I would like to know the history of this card. Who submitted it to PSA, etc.?

[glynparson]

As per usual the board has the irrational standard of perfection. It must be amazing to be some of you guys who have never made an error. This one seems reasonable to me. I have seen players misidentifies in every single companies holders. You know why? Because these things are done by humans.

[CrackaJackKid]

Originally Posted by glynparson

As per usual the board has the irrational standard of perfection. It must be amazing to be some of you guys who have never made an error. This one seems reasonable to me. I have seen players misidentifies in every single companies holders. You know why? Because these things are done by humans.

Sorry but this is blatantly unacceptable. How many continued errors do we see weekly? Don’t they claim to be “professionals”? SIG-Sloppy inconsistent grading.

[RCMcKenzie]

I dunno. You'd have to know your n172's backwards and forward, or be an ardent Cincy collector to immediately catch this one. Look at 156-1 and 317-3 in the OJ book. I know I didn't catch it until this thread pointed it out.

There are much more glaring tpg errors...like this Steinfeldt on ebay the other day...

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by glynparson

As per usual the board has the irrational standard of perfection. It must be amazing to be some of you guys who have never made an error. This one seems reasonable to me. I have seen players misidentifies in every single companies holders. You know why? Because these things are done by humans.

I get back to my original question. Aren't 3 separate graders supposed to agree on this? Not one of them said -"The name printed on the card doesn't match the handwritten name?".

[RCMcKenzie]

I just got a new pair of reading glasses upped to 2x today, so my eyesight is not the best. I don't see a name on the original card, other than McPhee written in pencil. When I glanced at the listing last week, the image was close enough to the McPhee image that I know, that I didn't notice the missed id, and I look at every OJ auction that comes up. I can name Connie Mack w/o the name-tag, but I think there are many cards that I could not i.d. by the photo alone. Rob

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by buymycards

I get back to my original question. Aren't 3 separate graders supposed to agree on this? Not one of them said -"The name printed on the card doesn't match the handwritten name?".

You forgot the guys who complete the Research stage, and also the dudes working in the Quality Assurance 1 and Quality Assurance 2 stage. But to be fair based on what I've read, I think the third grader is only called when the first two differ on grade. Still makes 5-6 people who looked at this card and got it wrong. Here are some more egregious errors:


1888 Allen & Ginter's The World's Champions Second Series - Tobacco N43 #BIED - Billy Edwards [PSA*1*PR]
Courtesy of COMC.com


1888 Allen & Ginter's The World's Champions Second Series - Tobacco N43 #HGCR - H.G. Crocker [PSA*3*VG]
Courtesy of COMC.com


1966 O-Pee-Chee - [Base] #50 - Mickey Mantle [PSA*1*PR]
Courtesy of COMC.com It's shocking how many OPC they label as Topps and vice versa. Vintage Breaks had to return like 20 1971 OPC cards in a row that PSA labeled as Topps.

Not even in 1969 MLBPA set...

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ighlight=mlbpa

Pinholes in multiple PSA 7s...
https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...light=pinholes

I could go on and on. And PSA is considered the Gold Standard...... only because he who has the most gold, wears the gold-colored glasses.

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by glynparson

As per usual the board has the irrational standard of perfection. It must be amazing to be some of you guys who have never made an error. This one seems reasonable to me. I have seen players misidentifies in every single companies holders. You know why? Because these things are done by humans.

Hi Glyn,
I like to pick on PSA, but I have to say, sometimes when I am looking through my eBay listings, I find things that are really screwy. Putting the wrong photo in a listing. Incorrect spelling in the title and many other things. Sometimes I think to myself, what in the hell was I thinking when I posted that listing?

But, it is much more fun to pick on the grading companies than it is to point out my own mistakes. Maybe I should start a "Rick's screwed up eBay listings" thread.

Take care, Rick