|
#51
|
|||
|
|||
|
#52
|
||||
|
||||
|
#53
|
||||
|
||||
Can't deny Gretzky's unbelievable impact in his sport, but hockey is such a 4th tier sport in America. Really don't see him being that iconic a national figure.
If you showed his picture to 1000 Americans how many would even know who he was? Last edited by Snapolit1; 11-10-2019 at 05:22 PM. |
#54
|
|||
|
|||
Gretzky is Canada’s most beloved maybe, but we need an American here. I guess I would vote for Joe Montana or John Madden ( yes, I have a Bay Area bias). Maybe Jack Nicklaus too.
Last edited by DaveW; 11-10-2019 at 06:53 PM. |
#55
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Personally I'm 25% Canadian, but 100% American.
__________________
FRANK:BUR:KETT - RAUCOUS SPORTS CARD FORUM MEMBER AND MONSTER NUMBER FATHER. GOOD FOR THE HOBBY AND THE FORUM WITH A VAULT IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION FILLED WITH NON-FUNGIBLES 274/1000 Monster Number Nearly*1000* successful B/S/T transactions completed from 2012 to 2024. Over 680 sales with satisfied Board members served. If you want fries with your order, just speak up. Thank you all. Now nearly PQ. Last edited by frankbmd; 11-10-2019 at 07:18 PM. |
#56
|
|||
|
|||
Ah, so it depends on what we mean by “American” - United States of America or North America or even South America. If it’s not United States, then I would say Pele ( or Charo)
Last edited by DaveW; 11-10-2019 at 08:19 PM. |
#57
|
||||
|
||||
In the Boston area, maybe. Outside of Boston? Not a chance in hell.
__________________
Building these sets: T206, 1953 Bowman Color, 1975 Topps. Great transactions with: piedmont150, Cardboard Junkie, z28jd, t206blogcom, tinkertoeverstochance, trobba, Texxxx, marcdelpercio, t206hound, zachs, tolstoi, IronHorse 2130, AndyG09, BBT206, jtschantz, lug-nut, leaflover, Abravefan11, mpemulis, btcarfagno, BlueSky, and Frankbmd. |
#58
|
||||
|
||||
We've lost a lot of truly beloved legends, of late. Bart Starr, Stan Musial, Ernie Banks.
Brett Favre's back on the adored list in Wisconsin. Hank Aaron's way up there. Robin Yount, too. Bob Uecker is pretty loved nationally, up there with Vin Scully. Ueck used to go on Carson a heck of a lot. Don't overlook how adored Roger Staubach is in Texas, and elsewhere.
__________________
Building these sets: T206, 1953 Bowman Color, 1975 Topps. Great transactions with: piedmont150, Cardboard Junkie, z28jd, t206blogcom, tinkertoeverstochance, trobba, Texxxx, marcdelpercio, t206hound, zachs, tolstoi, IronHorse 2130, AndyG09, BBT206, jtschantz, lug-nut, leaflover, Abravefan11, mpemulis, btcarfagno, BlueSky, and Frankbmd. |
#59
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
There are literally only a few individuals in the history of sport, dead OR alive, that have reached Gretzky's level of supremacy. Football doesn't even have as iconic an individual. You mentioned Shaq?? He doesn't even register as one of the best basketball players, never mind an icon of the sport. And yes, many Americans know the name Wayne Gretzky, let's not be daft. The average American would recognize his visage over someone like Pele... without question. |
#60
|
|||
|
|||
I guess that depends on your definition of beloved. Beloved to me means they transcend sports and everyone generally likes them and has a feel for who they are as a person. I'm not really sure what kind of opinions the average person has on Gretzky given that he's never been all that public of a person. Same goes for a lot of the suggestions. That's why I think Shaq is a good choice. He has a public persona that people relate to.
Last edited by packs; 11-12-2019 at 07:07 AM. |
#61
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
|
#62
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
As beloved as someone like Roger Staubach might be in Texas, I know nothing about who he is as a person. |
#63
|
||||
|
||||
True. Jeter is in the same category and not far behind Jr.
__________________
Postwar stars & HOF'ers. Bowman / Topps Cubs team sets. |
#64
|
|||
|
|||
Coach K.
|
#65
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
As for football, I think Brady will end up as a near-consensus GOAT, although interestingly USA Today just recently ranked him 2nd, behind Jerry Rice.
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. |
#66
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
overtly patriotic but not partisan no real scandal or skeletons in the closet probably overcame some great personal hardship probably some underdog story about making it to the top preaches self-reliance and has an affable personality |
#67
|
|||
|
|||
If I had the power to turn back time (to 4 years ago), my most beloved living legend is Yogi Berra.
My Daughter Debbie lived in Montclair, NJ on the same street (4 houses away) as did the Berra Family. We met Yogi and his wife, Carmen, several times. They were the most delightful people that you would ever meet and have a conversation with. . 1947 Bond Bread …………………………………………….….. 2012 Cooperstown TED Z T206 Reference . |
#68
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Where in the world Is there in the world A man [or woman] so extraordinaire?
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. |
#69
|
||||
|
||||
50 years ago, people didn't want to know the dirt on celebrities. Didn't want to know their foibles. Today we have Twitter reports about some player cheating on his wife with the babysitter. Different times. People wanted to imagine John Wayne was the guy he played in movies, Bob Hope was the guy you saw on the tonight show, and Mickey Mantle didn't have a failing anyone knew about. We don't live in that world anymore. For good or for bad.
|
#70
|
||||
|
||||
Ted, all true 100 times over. We lived in Montclair for 25 years. Met Yogi and Carmen at many charitable events. The nicest people you would ever met. And Dale and other son (name slipping my mind) is a great guy too. They said yes to every charity in town. Many times over. Never said no to any local charity that I ever heard of. I have some great Yogi signed Christmas ornaments I will always cherish. Really nice people. Rumor was for many year they handed our signed baseball cards on Halloween.
First year we lived in town a local charity had as an auction item "watch a world series game with Yogi and 20 of your closest friends" at the theatre at his museum. Still kicking myself in the ass for not grabbing that. Sure at the time the price was some outrageous amount like $2000. Uggh. Quote:
Last edited by Snapolit1; 11-12-2019 at 06:20 PM. |
#71
|
|||
|
|||
Betty White
|
#72
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
I like your George Foreman idea - I wouldn't have thought of him. Shaq is certainly loveable. I think Peyton Manning may be working his way into the conversation, but perhaps he is too regional (Denver and Indy?). Good question as most of the truly loveable sports icons have passed away in the last 10-20 years.
__________________
$co++ Forre$+ |
#73
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
|
#74
|
||||
|
||||
White Sox hall of famer Frank Thomas should be considered on this list. The others that come to mind are Shaq, Manny Pacquiao, Emmitt Smith and Rafael Nadal.
Tiger Woods. Michael Jordan and Derek Jeter should be loved by all, but at the end of the day they are not friendly to the fans. |
#75
|
||||
|
||||
Tim Tebow. Absolutely beloved with a capital B by a lot of people. Is he a great football player? No. Is he a great baseball player? No. Would CNN and FOX broadcast his funeral live and shut everything else down anyone is talking about? Yep. Would he be mobbed in Times Square at 1 am? Yep. Would he great a huge ovation at a theater or boxing match or patriotic event. Yep. After he gives up the baseball thing can basically write his own ticket for the rest of his living doing whatever he pleases.
There's your winner. Bring on the haters. Line forms to the left. Be sure to take a number. Last edited by Snapolit1; 11-14-2019 at 07:19 AM. |
#76
|
|||
|
|||
Has to be Tiger Woods. Just ask any porn star or hooker and they'll tell you the same.
|
#77
|
|||
|
|||
Do you really think Tiger is beloved? I think he's probably the top golfer all time performance wise but beloved?
|
#78
|
|||
|
|||
double post
Last edited by packs; 11-14-2019 at 08:12 AM. |
#79
|
|||
|
|||
Ted -- Steve, Beautiful posts on Yogi Berra and his family.
Betty White might have been in jest, but she is just right there at the top of beloved television personalities. Shaq is a great choice too; everyone loves Shaq. This has been a swell thread--- a happy place. --- Brian Powell |
#80
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Casey Stengel said, "I never play a game without my man." He was talking about #8. And Berra was one guy whose impact on the game(s) he played in transcended WAR. You look at BBR, and they'll tell ya that Berra's lifetime contribution was 59.8 wins. BS. Yogi was Casey's general on the field, and Yogi saw freaking everything. Anybody that looked at him, and his between game antics, and underestimated him was a fool. He was every bit as important to the Yankees as Mantle or Ford.
__________________
Building these sets: T206, 1953 Bowman Color, 1975 Topps. Great transactions with: piedmont150, Cardboard Junkie, z28jd, t206blogcom, tinkertoeverstochance, trobba, Texxxx, marcdelpercio, t206hound, zachs, tolstoi, IronHorse 2130, AndyG09, BBT206, jtschantz, lug-nut, leaflover, Abravefan11, mpemulis, btcarfagno, BlueSky, and Frankbmd. |
#81
|
||||
|
||||
This guy is #1 worldwide:
__________________
Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true. https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/ Or not... |
#82
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
Check out https://www.thecollectorconnection.com Always looking for consignments 717.327.8915 We sell your less expensive pre-war cards individually instead of in bulk lots to make YOU the most money possible! and Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecollectorconnectionauctions |
#83
|
|||
|
|||
Betty White was not in jest.
|
#84
|
||||
|
||||
Bobby Hull
Hank Aaron & Willie Mays Gale Sayers ( his health is deteriorating) Ditka Bill Russell Mario Andretti |
#85
|
||||
|
||||
I vote Aaron and Mays. Brady is on his way. Nicklaus is not as famous as you might think. When you say his name, most people think you are talking about the guy from The Shining.
I don't see how y'all can talk about Shaq and Barkley and leave out Kenny "The Jet" Smith honorable non-sport mentions... Phil Collins, Sting
__________________
Want to buy or trade for T213-1 (Bob Rhoades) Other Louisiana issues T216 T215 T214 T213 Etc |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
OT: My first beloved catalog | Snapolit1 | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 19 | 04-29-2018 12:36 PM |
Can corruption kill this beloved hobby? | ullmandds | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 57 | 08-23-2013 05:12 PM |
Baseball living legend Monty Irvin bids farewell | pepis | Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) | 3 | 05-14-2013 03:24 PM |
A Collector, Mastro, PSA & Our Beloved Hobby | Archive | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 85 | 05-31-2008 01:55 PM |
Your most beloved card? | Archive | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 15 | 10-11-2007 03:09 PM |