T213 Coupon/T215 Red Cross Scarcity relative to T206 Backs

[ullmandds]

Nice synopsis but pirates are t215.

[Rhotchkiss]

Right, total brain fart/typo. Pirate backs are indeed t215s!

[JackW]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

T215 Pirates are wicked rare (thats a technical term). There is one almost complete set known, and a smattering of others - maybe 20(ish) known. These cards are brown old mill rare, and they sell for brown lenox/brown old mill prices, if they even ever come up. Like brown old mills, all T213 Pirates are graded A (or should be) because they were not factory cut.

A few T215 Pirates have sold since 2016 in the $5,000-$7,000 range. Brown Old Mills sell for at least two to three times that, don't they?

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...heinie-wagner/

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...dinary-rarity/

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...d-boston-amer/

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by JackW

A few T215 Pirates have sold since 2016 in the $5,000-$7,000 range. Brown Old Mills sell for at least two to three times that, don't they?

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...heinie-wagner/

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...dinary-rarity/

https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...d-boston-amer/

Yes, common t215 pirates sell for less than brown old mills. However, I paid almost as much for my Frank Chance as some brown old mills go for. Notice in the post I said brown lenox/brown old mills, and there is a range there. But point taken, brown old mills are more valuable than all other cards listed in this thread (sometimes by a lot), unless you are dealing with an HOFer.

As an aside, I used to own the Heine Wagner- i believe it has some paperloss on front and a dimple near his head, so there are flaws on that one; not that it matters so much with rarities like that.

[JackW]

Thanks for correcting that T215 Pirates Hall of Famers are the ones that approach brown Old Mill prices.

[buymycards]

"T213-2 are not very rare; indeed they are fairly common."


I don't think you can make a blanket statement about the T213-2's. I would guess that around 60% of the 185 cards are fairly common, around 20% are fairly difficult, 10% are very difficult, and the remaining 10% are extremely scarce, with only 1-3 known examples of each card.

[MR RAREBACK]

It's to bad the t213-2 would be a fun set to try

[ahumes13]

Great info, thanks to all!