T218 series breakdown and ad backs

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

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[Marslife]

scored a super nice Tolstoi Shepard!

i have a few more to go :-(

TTYL!

Cliff



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[scooter729]

I thought the $61 price tag on a Cloughan error PSA 3 tonight on eBay was interesting. There were really only two bidders over $13, but a stronger price than I was expecting to see. I did have a $30 snipe on the card which never got triggered.

Anyone else here bidding on that one? Thoughts on the $61 final price? Maybe a few more people learning about this card?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by scooter729

I thought the $61 price tag on a Cloughan error PSA 3 tonight on eBay was interesting. There were really only two bidders over $13, but a stronger price than I was expecting to see. I did have a $30 snipe on the card which never got triggered.

Anyone else here bidding on that one? Thoughts on the $61 final price? Maybe a few more people learning about this card?

I was the underbidder, I thought you might have been the winner lol. I figured posting about it would cause the price to go up a little, but I'm honestly surprised I lost this time. I've bid several hundred % of the second highest bids on the last few T218 errors. I figure this price is probably more of an anomaly; someone else just really wanted one. The market for these still seems to be incredibly thin.


EDIT: Just for frame of reference, I bought a Cloughan on eBay last year for a bid of $32.11. This is the only time, I believe, that the card has transacted publicly in a listing that correctly identified the error. I doubled my bid on this one, but someone else did too. The next one or two might go a bit high as well, but I don't think it will last. The market is very thin for these, with a handful of master set collectors and variation fans that might really care. If I hadn't placed my "overpay" bid, it would have sold for half of what it did. Sorry for driving the price up, to whoever won


EDIT 2: Just for tracking, attaching the card image of the PSA 3 that just sold. I believe all the known examples are now posted in this thread: the 3 copies I own and showed, the 2 Scooter729 has and posted, and now this one. This makes a known population of 6 cards so far, all with 649 backs. Would love to see any others you folks may have or know about. I didn't see a second copy until over a decade after acquiring the first one, and now 3 have appeared for public sale in the last 3 years, 2 of which were not identified as a variation by the seller. Interesting how the cycles work with availability.

[scooter729]

I'm guessing the population on this card is much higher than the 6 we know about - and if PSA ever started grading the slabs with the variations on these three errors, you'd see a lot more come out of the woodwork. And I would expect the prices to jump then, probably $100+ on Gillis and Cloughan (Trudenbach seems more common).

But for now though, it'll remain a niche item for us T218 master guys....

[DaveW]

Originally Posted by scooter729

I thought the $61 price tag on a Cloughan error PSA 3 tonight on eBay was interesting. There were really only two bidders over $13, but a stronger price than I was expecting to see. I did have a $30 snipe on the card which never got triggered.

Anyone else here bidding on that one? Thoughts on the $61 final price? Maybe a few more people learning about this card?

I was about to bid $35 on this when the price shot up to $61. I don’t need one that badly. Maybe the buyer is the guy that’s trying to sell the Gillis cards for $3000. This would be a real bargain for him. I guess we’ll know when it gets listed for $5000.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by DaveW

I was about to bid $35 on this when the price shot up to $61. I don’t need one that badly. Maybe the buyer is the guy that’s trying to sell the Gillis cards for $3000. This would be a real bargain for him. I guess we’ll know when it gets listed for $5000.

Only $5,000? lol.

Scooter - I sure hope PSA doesn't start grading them and the registry guys involved, I'd like to be able to keep picking these variations up cheap.

[G1911]

Since this thread has kind of become the hub for T218 discussion, I'll post some of my other oddities, rarities and info here. One of the more interesting cards is a T218 M.J. McGrath with a recurring print defect/variation depending on how you define things.

When I bought the first one, I thought it was a one of a kind card, not a printing variation, but just the result of someone at the factory handling a still wet sheet before it dried. Then I found a second card, both with the same back (Mecca, Factory 30). I now think there was probably some dust/dirt/debris/something else obscuring part of the printing plate, resulting in the smudge look. I'd think there are probably several more out there, but have never seen besides the two I have. I'd love to know if any of you have this variant, or another card with the same issue.

There's a lot of oddities shared in this thread: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=251642

[Marslife]

Hey Fellas!

won the T218 lot in Sterling auctions, came in today. I did a quick run thru and found the Trubenback Mecca Factory 30 Error :-)


unfortunately no Tolstois.... but hopefully some other commons I need to fill some holes in the master quest once i can go thru them...

TTYL!

Cliff

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