Another "Authentic Wagner"

[MichelaiTorres83]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

The fact that the asking price is 99% below market value is sufficient to conclude with certainty, prima facie, that the card is a reprint. Whoever buys that card for $400 has no legal recourse to make a fraud claim because the element of deception is absent. Not even a complete novice would be fooled.

Hmm. Well. I would not agree with that. That is a very blanket statement that does not account for ebay account protection let alone credit card protection.

If one suspects wrong doing that is extremely easy to see and prove outside of automated detection of issues from the ebay platform, which most of the time is extremely basic in methodolgoy, then yes there is more than enough runway for recourse once you get someones attention and are the right person requesting recourse.

Even if you are not the account holder all you need to do is report a count compromise to get human intervention. Reporting an account compromise that may subject ebay to other federal, state and local sanctions is way more powerful than reporting a listing that may or may not be legit. It is not met with the same level of ignorance as reporting a suspected marginably bad listing if you get the right person.

The odds this person/attacker went to the level to find a server in the victims home town to connect to ebay to skip past safe guards that a basic automated system can understand are slim to zero. Any human can look at the traffic and see it is anomolous.

What this person did was slip past is a system that is flawed and when met with a lockout that requires real verification to undo is not something that is easily undone.

You can tell this tale by knowing anything about fraud and looking at their feed back history.

This individual has likely been dormant long enough to bring their feedback rating way down through repeat fraud that was caught, uncaught etc round and round not setting off enough of an alert to shut the account off completely.

I can say that if any real human touched the incident when reported and not an automated system any transaction associated to this account would be dead and locked long ago.

If you want to enact swift and blinding justice on a listing then that perspective is how you will be way more effective than pressing a report button. Compliance costs assloads of dollars.

Mike

[mrvster]

hahahaha!!!

[Buythatcard]

Seems like Honus signed the back of several ticket stubs. There are 2 of them out there. You can spend $10.95 or $800.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-H....c100005.m1851


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-t206-H....c100008.m2219

[Leon]

I can't imagine listing a reprint, which I know is a reprint, for $800. The other is a much better buy.

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

Seems like Honus signed the back of several ticket stubs. There are 2 of them out there. You can spend $10.95 or $800.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-H....c100005.m1851


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-t206-H....c100008.m2219

[mrvster]

what is wrong with people?????????

[Buythatcard]

The following photo is from one of his listings where buyer claimed it was a fake. I don't know. Those toes look real to me.

[painthistorian]

This guy is an absolute moron, he e mailed us to say he has authentication and its real, what a jerk, I reported him to trust and safety, this listing will be pulled.