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Old 11-28-2018, 08:55 PM
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Unfortunately this one from the latest Hunt Auction also belongs on the list.

before: sold unsigned on eBay by SG713 Nov 20, 2016 for $22.92, Cardtarget Link http://www.cardtarget.com/cards/160935

after:https://huntauctions.com/phone/image...162&lot_num=10
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:06 PM
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Unfortunately this one from the latest Hunt Auction also belongs on the list.

before: sold unsigned on eBay by SG713 Nov 20, 2016 for $22.92, Cardtarget Link http://www.cardtarget.com/cards/160935

after:https://huntauctions.com/phone/image...162&lot_num=10
Now this one had a few people scratching their heads even before the big reveal. That was a tough signature to see, and not sure what formed the basis for the signature in any event. Doesn’t look like the other ones I have seen.
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:13 PM
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Nice piece by Rich Mueller at SCD covering this evolving nightmare.... er, story. Thanks Rich! I appreciate your broadening the audience for this fraud.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ed-t206-story/
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Nice Chris, just found that one as well. So far I cant find a non signed version of yours Paul.

Unfortunately they are even faking back damage now.

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So far I cant find a non signed version of yours Paul.
I assume you mean the Murray? I would guess the white triangular paper loss around the crease was done by the fraudster, which would make it that much tougher to uncover.
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I assume you mean the Murray? I would guess the white triangular paper loss around the crease was done by the fraudster, which would make it that much tougher to uncover.
Being an auto collector, to me this is heart wrenching. I don't collect T206...but have to ask about the condition altering of the cards; Are there specific spots on the T206 cards where a bend or spotting would be most likely?
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The right thing now is for the TPA and AH to get their evidence in order and go to the FBI. My guess is that might not happen though. They will not want the publicity which that would surely engender.
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Nice piece by Rich Mueller at SCD covering this evolving nightmare.... er, story. Thanks Rich! I appreciate your broadening the audience for this fraud.



https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ed-t206-story/


Rich does a great wrap and analysis of the events to date, well done!


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At what point do people finally lose confidence in these authentication services for autographs?
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at least 5 years ago?
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:30 PM
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I bought 9 signed T206 cards between 2006 and 2008 including several from the Pennsylvania find. I no longer actively collect and sold them a few years ago. My fear is that even legit signed T206 cards have lost significant value. For those damaged I would insist that your TPG add a graded date to the flip to help mitigate any value loss. Pre-2015 signed cards would be presumably unaffected and this service should be without charge. The Morrey and Pennsylvania collections should have additional provenance on the flip.

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