John Rogers Sentenced

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by trdcrdkid

This is from the SABR bio linked to above, on Hornsby's managerial stint with the St. Louis Browns in 1952:

"Hornsby lasted only 51 games before Veeck gave him the boot. During spring training, he quickly got cross-ways with the legendary Satchel Paige, who liked to keep his own training rules.102 The club got off to a strong start but soon faded to seventh place, as Hornsby became more and more irascible.103 The acerbic Hornsby had general contempt for pitchers and continued his long-standing practice of making pitching changes from the dugout.104 According to Ned Garver, he was completely aloof and wouldn’t speak to a player except to ridicule him. Once in a hotel elevator, Hornsby derided Garver for walking the opposing pitcher in the game that day. The problem was that it had been Cliff Fannin, not Garver, who had done the deed.105

When Veeck got rid of the Rajah on June 8, the players were thrilled and presented their owner with a three-foot trophy that they had inscribed, “To Bill Veeck: For the greatest play since the Emancipation Proclamation.” Pitcher Gene Bearden said, “They ought to declare a national holiday in St. Louis.”106 Outfielder Bob Nieman was quoted as saying that “the news was like lifting a hundred-pound sack of sand from each player’s back.”"

So he was blunt and didn't get along with people and players, often speaking his mind without sugarcoating?? That's ALL you could come up with from your morally superior perch? With all due respect David, this is just more of the pathetic painting of past individuals with today's delusional, politically correct brush. Am I saying he was a great person? No. I can't, because I, like you, have never actually met the man, and hence, shouldn't make any hypocritical attempts at judgement. Is he a PRICK as you contend?? If it's to be based on the minuscule amount of so-called damaging information you provide... then it's a resounding NO.

It's also funny that you conveniently left out this part of the write-up...

"On the other hand, Hornsby had a real fondness for children, working with thousands over many years. He was a more successful minor-league than major-league manager, suggesting that he had more patience at that level. But as a player he was so good that any all-time team without him at second base is highly suspect. The Rajah was indeed royalty with a bat in his hands"


plus... you did see that I added the images I did to lighten the mood on this thread right?
It wasn't done to make any kind of statement regarding the character of said individuals pictured.. that should be obvious to anyone.