PWCC Certified High End Cards:

[Leon]

Sounds like good marketing to me. Their HE cards are usually high end . Just as a lot of us buy cards based on their qualities they are marking ones they think are nice. There are better things to gripe about ...

ps...I had a consignment get turned down for the HE designation .....oh well.

[Brian Van Horn]

I can't get beyond PSA 2 and high end.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

I can't get beyond PSA 2 and high end.

Yes...and why is there no 9.5 grade yet???

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

I can't get beyond PSA 2 and high end.

To me this is an oxymoron......

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Leon

Sounds like good marketing to me. Their HE cards are usually high end . Just as a lot of us buy cards based on their qualities they are marking ones they think are nice. There are better things to gripe about ...

ps...I had a consignment get turned down for the HE designation .....oh well.

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..must you request that the submission possibly
be designated " PWCC HE" or do they automatically look at the cards as they scan and list and take it upon themselves to do it ??...that would be a great free service..higher final price for the seller and resulting higher fee to PWCC....a "win-win"

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[Leon]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

..
..must you request that the submission possibly
be designated " PWCC HE" or do they automatically look at the cards as they scan and list and take it upon themselves to do it ??...that would be a great free service..higher final price for the seller and resulting higher fee to PWCC....a "win-win"

..

I don't know. I asked if a card would meet their HE designation and they said no, the corners weren't nice enough. It wasn't a big deal....

[drcy]

It's like PSA assigning a condition grade to an autograph. If you are unable to judge the condition of a signature on your own, you probably shouldn't be collecting.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by drcy

It's like PSA assigning a condition grade to an autograph. If you are unable to judge the condition of a signature on your own, you probably shouldn't be collecting.

I'm not so sure. It's possible this "independent grading" thing may catch on.

If you are unable to judge the condition of a card on your own, you probably shouldn't be collecting.

[iwantitiwinit]

Do they also have a LE (low end) designation? If HE exists then LE obviously exists. Now I'm not saying I expect them to do anything thing that would lower the perceived value of a card they have on consignment but if I were a buyer in their auctions I would only purchase HE designated cards as non-HE cards could be of lesser condition for the grade. Some non-HE cards would logically have to be LE cards.

I actually don't care what they do since I never even look at their auctions. Why would I ever purchase a card for 25-50% more than I can purchase that same quality of card elsewhere.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

Do they also have a LE (low end) designation? If HE exists then LE obviously exists. Now I'm not saying I expect them to do anything thing that would lower the perceived value of a card they have on consignment but if I were a buyer in their auctions I would only purchase HE designated cards as non-HE cards could be of lesser condition for the grade. Some non-HE cards would logically have to be LE cards.

I actually don't care what they do since I never even look at their auctions. Why would I ever purchase a card for 25-50% more than I can purchase that same quality of card elsewhere.

I have an example of a low end card. Poor for the grade:


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[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Sean

I have an example of a low end card. Poor for the grade:

When you see an ad that says 'low end' card on the listing let me know. I guess a seller can say on a low end card 'candidate for a resubmission raw for a re-grade' because the card will likely get a different grade, though a lower one.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Sean

I have an example of a low end card. Poor for the grade:


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I think I owned that card. I frequently point out low end examples in my ebay store, but I'm not selling on consignment.


EDIT: Here's a couple:

Frankly grade seems a tad high to me. Crease-free, but more corner wear than I would normally associate with this grade.

All sellers hype their stuff, especially when they think it's undergraded. Don't know many of us who admit when they got a better grade than expected. I fully expected a PSA 6 on this card. Light corner touches and the centering issues really make me wonder how it got the extra half point!

I also call out average cards:

Average card for the grade. Light corner wear heavier in the lower right, and centering issues!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

Do they also have a LE (low end) designation? If HE exists then LE obviously exists. Now I'm not saying I expect them to do anything thing that would lower the perceived value of a card they have on consignment but if I were a buyer in their auctions I would only purchase HE designated cards as non-HE cards could be of lesser condition for the grade. Some non-HE cards would logically have to be LE cards.

I actually don't care what they do since I never even look at their auctions. Why would I ever purchase a card for 25-50% more than I can purchase that same quality of card elsewhere.

When PSA went to half grades some argued that it would devalue the regular grades. That never happened. I think PWCC is using the designation sparingly enough that it doesn't hurt the value of the rest of their cards. That said, I continue to think it's a gimmick and personally I could not care less.

[Neal]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

When PSA went to half grades some argued that it would devalue the regular grades. That never happened. I think PWCC is using the designation sparingly enough that it doesn't hurt the value of the rest of their cards. That said, I continue to think it's a gimmick and personally I could not care less.

agreed

PWCC gets great stuff. There are also a lot of things to consider when bidding with PWCC that have been discussed over, and over, and over again by the same collectors ..... who probably have "Stay off the Lawn" signs in their front yard

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

..
..must you request that the submission possibly
be designated " PWCC HE" or do they automatically look at the cards as they scan and list and take it upon themselves to do it ??...that would be a great free service..higher final price for the seller and resulting higher fee to PWCC....a "win-win"

..

They automatically review submissions to see if they qualify for the designation. You can make a request or state your opinion that you believe your card should qualify. But they won't make the determination until they have the card in hand.

I've sent in a couple of cards I thought should have been high end. One got it and one didn't.

[Sean]

I sold my 1965 Topps set through PWCC. I had a Frank Robinson PSA 9 that they designated High End. I didn't ask for the designation, they did it on their own.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

I also think it's a pretty smart marketing move. If you're a buyer of PWCC cards it gives you an extra layer of grading that can easily be searched on. I recently added a "pwcc-he" ebay search just to see what cards they are designating high end. I think we all like to see cards that look better than their respective technical grades. And if you're a seller with PWCC there's an obvious upside to getting the designation (especially after all the "in-house" bidders go to work). :-)

[aconte]

Originally Posted by Leon

Sounds like good marketing to me. Their HE cards are usually high end . Just as a lot of us buy cards based on their qualities they are marking ones they think are nice. There are better things to gripe about ...

Agreed!

[frankbmd]

My niche is the HE AUTH card.