T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

[tedzan]

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During the Summer of 1909, American Litho (ALC) printed SWEET CAPORAL 150 Factory #30 cards of many Major Leaguers and shipped them to Factory #30 in NYC.
Simultaneously, ALC started printing their first group (34 subjects) of Southern Leaguers. These cards were printed with brown HINDU backs and were shipped to the
Factory (#649) producing HINDU cigarettes (also SWEET CAPORAL cigarettes).
Furthermore, ALC selected 34 - Major League subjects from the batches of the aforementioned SWEET CAPORAL 150 cards and modified the backs by stamping them
with the "Factory #649" overprint in order to ship them to this new factory.

Circa..Fall of 1909, ALC switched to printing up the OLD MILL backs on the Southern League cards. During this entire process, the usual printer's practice of test runs
between actual press runs resulted in these brown inked OLD MILL (scrap) cards [with the red ink Factory #649 overprint (inverted)]. I don't think any of them found
their way into cigarette packs. Anyhow, to date 13 of them have been confirmed. They are........

Bernhard
Foster
Greminger
Helm
Hooker
Jordan
Kiernan
Mullaney
Paige
Reagan
Revelle
Sid Smith
Thornton






TED Z
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[tedzan]

Hey guys,

These Southern League brown OLD MILL cards are seldom seen....but if you have one, why not show it to us.


TED Z
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[Sean]

Hey Ted, I need your help. In reviewing post #30 I noticed that you mentioned the close correlation between the Red Cross type-1 and the Pirate sets. The Red Cross set features a Gabby Street card. I thought that that was a Street Catching pose. But the Pirate set features a Street portrait.

Does that mean that the Red Cross Street card is also the portrait version?

[tedzan]

Sean

The T215-1 set includes both Gabby Street cards....Portrait and Catching.





TED Z
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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Sean

The T215-1 set includes both Gabby Street cards....Portrait and Catching.





TED Z
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Ted,

I don't have back scans but here are front scans of a Street Catching and Portrait.

Street (Catching) T215-1.jpgStreet (Port) T215-1.jpg

[tedzan]

Hi Pat

Thanks much for posting these two Street cards.

It's not often that these T215-1 cards are seen.


Thanks again,

TED Z
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[Cooper1927]

Excellent post! You may want to put the "index" at the start of the thread.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Ted,

I don't have back scans but here are front scans of a Street Catching and Portrait.

Attachment 280659Attachment 280660

Patrick, is that your Street catching? I only know of one, and it belongs to Richard Masson, so this would be a second example.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Sean

Patrick, is that your Street catching? I only know of one, and it belongs to Richard Masson, so this would be a second example.

Sean, they are not my cards just scans I had.