Interesting Ebay Bidding

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

First post and controversy right off the bat.

Welcome Darius

LOL.

Maybe the guy is just trying to save the buyer's remorse for spending 225 bucks for a Kellogg's Rick Monday because it's in a plastic slab.

When the crash comes, it's these incredibly overvalued "high grade" commons that are getting pushed off the life boat first. I just don't get that people don't understand the reason they are "low pop" is that only a couple people want to actually pay to grade a Joe Shlabotnik, it doesn't mean there isn't a million of them.

[Bram99]

I think I have a Joe Shlabotnik Rookie Pacific Coast League Winky Dinky Dog Franks issue. Extremely low population. Let me check.

[Brent Huigens]

Thanks for the board for flagging this. We are indeed addressing the matter. The bid in question has been canceled and we are counseling the consignor on the auction rules.

Consignors bidding on their own items, even if it's in earnest to win something back, is not allowed. While there probably are scenarios where this practice is more-or-less reasonable/honest, we've had to take a strict stance against it to avoid potential manipulation. New consignors are warned and then blocked from working with us if the practice persists.

Please continue to help us monitor the marketplace. This oversight is greatly appreciated.

PWCC Auctions, LLC

[nsaddict]

Brent does deserve kudos for posting here and taking action. I wish ebay would have the balls to apply stricter bidding policies. As an example, bidding privileges should be revoked with too many bid retractions. Wouldn't be a cure all, but a start in the right direction. But we know they would never do such a thing.

[JustinD]

Thank you Brent.

You do deserve kudos for taking action.

[dclarkraiders]

Brent,

Thanks for taking action.

Duane

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Thank you Brent.

You do deserve kudos for taking action.

Yes he does. Unfortunately, we can't alert the other non-ebay AH's of this same practice because we can't see the bidders. So let's just assume this practice is rampant over there until otherwise noted.

[JustinD]

Trust me, it's fully assumed.

[Thekid1]

Originally Posted by Brent Huigens

Thanks for the board for flagging this. We are indeed addressing the matter. The bid in question has been canceled and we are counseling the consignor on the auction rules.

Consignors bidding on their own items, even if it's in earnest to win something back, is not allowed. While there probably are scenarios where this practice is more-or-less reasonable/honest, we've had to take a strict stance against it to avoid potential manipulation. New consignors are warned and then blocked from working with us if the practice persists.

Please continue to help us monitor the marketplace. This oversight is greatly appreciated.

PWCC Auctions, LLC

Awesome Brent. Quick response and action!

[rjackson44]

this will never end ,,feebay is too greedy

[dariushou]

So i was on the CU boards today and came about a post with the title "Pwcc Description" and of course i couldn't resist. Someone pointed out a 1954 Aaron RC that ended last night. Of course it took all of 2 minutes to realize it was shilled. The same person who won the exact same card on June 12, 2016 (same psa cert number) was bidding on the auction that ended November 22, 2016. Anyhow, here is what i posted over there. When will this stop!!

"
Anyone see this one end last night, lol.

http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-Hank-Aaron-ROOKIE-RC-128-PSA-7-NRMT-PWCC-/142177026548?rmvSB=true

Is it me or isn't the above card the same exact card as the one below that ended on June 12, 2016 (same psa cert). Oh, wow, correct me if i'm wrong, but it looks like the guy who won on June 12th was bidding up the auction from last night. What a joke? This happens all of the time with PWCC auctions. I don't know what's real or what's fake anymore. One offs can happen, but please...it happens all of the time. And this is just the most obvious type of shills. Sure, someone is going to come on here and say the guy had sellers remorse and wanted to buy his card back.. yeah right! "

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/401130680730?rmvSB=true

[Snapolit1]

As someone schooled me recently, if you don't shill your auctions on PWCC you will probably do quite poorly.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by Brent Huigens

Thanks for the board for flagging this. We are indeed addressing the matter. The bid in question has been canceled and we are counseling the consignor on the auction rules.

Consignors bidding on their own items, even if it's in earnest to win something back, is not allowed. While there probably are scenarios where this practice is more-or-less reasonable/honest, we've had to take a strict stance against it to avoid potential manipulation. New consignors are warned and then blocked from working with us if the practice persists.

Please continue to help us monitor the marketplace. This oversight is greatly appreciated.

PWCC Auctions, LLC

Bravo, Brent

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by JustinD

LOL.

Maybe the guy is just trying to save the buyer's remorse for spending 225 bucks for a Kellogg's Rick Monday because it's in a plastic slab.

When the crash comes, it's these incredibly overvalued "high grade" commons that are getting pushed off the life boat first. I just don't get that people don't understand the reason they are "low pop" is that only a couple people want to actually pay to grade a Joe Shlabotnik, it doesn't mean there isn't a million of them.

People do get it; they are just collecting what they want to collect.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by MattyC

People do get it; they are just collecting what they want to collect.

Hey Matty, I wasn't shooting down those that are collecting for the love of it.

I am all for people collecting what they want and I admit to being an offender myself by having a registry set for Parrish. I do draw a line in the sand on paying realistically for these.

It's a fine line sometimes between those that are collecting cards and those really just collecting plastic holders.

After seeing your collection at times, I fully believe you understand collecting the card. It's just seeing people pay multiples of thousands for an off centered 10 for the impact on their registry and passing up a better 8 because the grader was blind that day that seems like the definition of madness.