First time I’ve been ripped off

[Mdmtx]

Kevin,
I don't know you, and I feel fortunate I don't. You misrepresented an item. If proven to be intentional, that could be construed as fraud. Your unwillingness to make this an easy transaction is also confounding. So you need the 30 dollar ball back before you refund the $600 you charged? That seems a little ridiculous. Refund him $570 now and hold back $30 until you get your ball back. Your complaint of 4 months time passing is weak as well. Aren't you lucky it took him 4 months to figure out he had purchased something that was misrepresented, you got an interest free loan for 4 months. I think if you reread this thread you will do the right thing, cause the thread is anything but flattering for your image.


Mark Medlin

[jb217676]

Wow, some seriously bad mojo here. What a way to alienate potential customers, many of whom call this site home.
Jeff Betts

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by jb217676

Wow, some seriously bad mojo here. What a way to alienate potential customers, many of whom call this site home.
Jeff Betts

Guys he said he's liquidating his collection. Basically he doesn't care about repercussions because he's never making another deal. That's also why booting him (at his request) is also meaningless.

[Tigerden]

Based on Kevin's last post looks like Jonathan is not getting his refund. Agreed, no repercussions for Kevin as he admits he is liquidating his collection. Kevin appears to have had zero desire giving a dime of the money back all along. One hurdle after another for Jonathan as the goalposts keeps being moved. Kevin found a new collector and sold him the stuff REA would not take. I just hope Jonathan learned from this experience and knows Kevin is the exception rather than the rule on this site. Hopefully you will continue to collect not be discouraged and recognize this is a great forum and a great source for knowledge about this hobby.

Adam Blaney

[Tigerden]

REA is only a hop skip and a jump from Long Island. Kevin can drop off his consignments and hit NYC on the way back maybe hock some fake Rolex's to a few tourists along the way. Geez. I'd like to know how much he paid from Bob McCann auction for the ball! My guess is even if Bob had dated it wrong it probably sold for a fraction of $600. I don't even think this ball had the box probably sold for around $200 at most. Bottom line REA didn't want the ball and Kev found a live one and reeled him in. Sad.

Adam Blaney

[Tigerden]

One of the things I noticed in BST with a few items Kevin listed was he didn't have prices. I get annoyed when people post and say make me an offer. How about, your the seller what do you want for it? At least list a price and OBO even if the price is inflated. When people put make me an offer its as if they are hoping that someone is dumb enough to offer insane money and would gladly take it even if they know they are ripping them off.

Adam Blaney

[khkco4bls]

Here's the thing you guys don't know me and yes he will get his money back so stop putting words in my mouth.it's amazing how perfect all you people are on this site it makes me sick. Did you not read the post above that he will get his money back when I get my item back I think that's only fair regardless of what you think it's worth. And what does this have to do with the BST and just asking for offers people do it all the time these are just things I'm trying to move along to other collectors because I'm moving and don't have the room for it all what is the problem here

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Tigerden

One of the things I noticed in BST with a few items Kevin listed was he didn't have prices. I get annoyed when people post and say make me an offer. How about, your the seller what do you want for it? At least list a price and OBO even if the price is inflated. When people put make me an offer its as if they are hoping that someone is dumb enough to offer insane money and would gladly take it even if they know they are ripping them off.

Adam Blaney

preaching to the choir....preaching to my choir at least...

[gemmint77]

Keeping track of names so I don't get screwed!!

[vintagebb2014]

+1

[TheNightmanCometh]

Can we ban Kevin now?

[vintagetoppsguy]

I didn't want to post this until Jonathan received his refund, but PayPal WOULD NOT have refunded his money. This was a combined purchase payment and PayPal does not make seller's issue partial refunds. PayPal can make the seller refund the entire purchase if the entire purchase is returned by the buyer (which in this case wasn't possible), but sellers do not have to give partial refunds. I'm glad this worked out for Jonathan.

[charrigan]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I didn't want to post this until Jonathan received his refund, but PayPal WOULD NOT have refunded his money. This was a combined purchase payment and PayPal does not make seller's issue partial refunds. PayPal can make the seller refund the entire purchase if the entire purchase is returned by the buyer (which in this case wasn't possible), but sellers do not have to give partial refunds. I'm glad this worked out for Jonathan.

His credit card surely would have sided with him. That's why it's good to have multiple means of protection.

I'm certainly for the general policy of "return before refund", but in this case the buyer would have been well within his rights to get his money back in whatever way was quickest and most convenient.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

Kevin,
I don't know you, and I feel fortunate I don't. You misrepresented an item. If proven to be intentional, that could be construed as fraud. Your unwillingness to make this an easy transaction is also confounding. So you need the 30 dollar ball back before you refund the $600 you charged? That seems a little ridiculous. Refund him $570 now and hold back $30 until you get your ball back. Your complaint of 4 months time passing is weak as well. Aren't you lucky it took him 4 months to figure out he had purchased something that was misrepresented, you got an interest free loan for 4 months. I think if you reread this thread you will do the right thing, cause the thread is anything but flattering for your image.


Mark Medlin

Well said