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Old 03-04-2016, 07:54 AM
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Don't insult my intelligence !

I fully understand what they were driving at.

I stated that I consider this Cobb card the 525th card in the T206 set. Notice, I have emphasized the word CARD; and, not subject.

Furthermore, I consider that the 68 cards in the 1910 COUPON series should be included in the T206 set. Which now brings the total
to 593 cards comprising a complete T206 set....which consists of 17 basic Tobacco brands.

And, this is my opinion, of which I am entitled to have and to speak of (having collected T206's for 36 years).


Obviously, you (and some others) disagree; and, that is your prerogative.


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Pardon me Ted, but I don't see how I insulted your intelligence.
Erick and packs asked you why you think the Cobb/Cobb should
be added to the basic set and you come back and post a couple
of times why you think it should be considered a T206 which
was completely different from what they were asking.

It doesn't matter to me whether the Cobb/Cobb or Coupon 1 are
considered a T206 or not so I don't have an opinion on it but
stating that a card is indeed the 525th card in the set
is stating a fact not an opinion.

Sometime your posts can be hard to decipher when you contradict
yourself. You said the Cobb/Cobb should be the 525th card in the
set and the 5th Cobb but based on your follow up post in your
own opinion it should be the 6th Cobb (Coupon 1) and there
should be 7 Hal Chase cards not 5.
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:39 AM
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Pat R.

Perhaps, I got carried away with my comments regarding the Ty Cobb Tobacco card and the 1910 COUPON series of 68 cards....because I strongly feel that these 69 cards
should be included in the T206 family; and, that there are really 17 basic Tobacco brands within the T206 timeline. All 69 of these cards were issued in the Spring of 1910.

What really ticked me off was your response (cited here) questioning the date of the Ty Cobb Tobacco card [I guess for whatever reason it does not jive with your agenda]:

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I did see post #81 and I don't see where it "clearly tells us when the cards
were circulated". I also don't see a date on any of the newspaper clippings.

The date....Feb. and Mar. of 1910....of these Newspaper clippings is identified by the fellow who posted it, Shawn. Shawn was an excellent contributor to Net54 back in 2009.

So, are you are accusing Shawn of lying about this date ?



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I am not sure what the article below is about, because I do not have a subscription to the site... I sure would like to read it though! I have noticed that the "Ty Cobb" brand advertisements are prodominately in the "Macon Weekly Telegraph" paper in Ga. The months seem to be Feb. and Mar. of 1910. If someone has a subscription to genealogybank.com, it would be nice to see some of the full adds. (there seems to be some full page adds)



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Old 03-04-2016, 08:55 AM
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Don't insult my intelligence !

I fully understand what they were driving at.

I stated that I consider this Cobb card the 525th card in the T206 set. Notice, I have emphasized the word CARD; and, not subject.

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Pat R.

Perhaps, I got carried away with my comments regarding the Ty Cobb Tobacco card and the 1910 COUPON series of 68 cards....because I strongly feel that these 69 cards
should be included in the T206 family; and, that there are really 17 basic Tobacco brands within the T206 timeline. All 69 of these cards were issued in the Spring of 1910.

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So are you still saying 525?
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:49 AM
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Pat R.

Perhaps, I got carried away with my comments regarding the Ty Cobb Tobacco card and the 1910 COUPON series of 68 cards....because I strongly feel that these 69 cards
should be included in the T206 family; and, that there are really 17 basic Tobacco brands within the T206 timeline. All 69 of these cards were issued in the Spring of 1910.

What really ticked me off was your response (cited here) questioning the date of the Ty Cobb Tobacco card [I guess for whatever reason it does not jive with your agenda]:




The date....Feb. and Mar. of 1910....of these Newspaper clippings is identified by the fellow who posted it, Shawn. Shawn was an excellent contributor to Net54 back in 2009.

So, are you are accusing Shawn of lying about this date ?







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I'm not accusing Shawn of lying if you read his response he states that "the
months seem to be Feb. and Mar. 1910" which leads me to believe he Didn't
find a definite date on these clippings.

And if you could please show me where it clearly states when the Cobb/Cobb
cards were circulated in the clippings I'd appreciate it, Perhaps I'm missing that.
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Old 03-04-2016, 11:15 AM
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I'm not accusing Shawn of lying if you read his response he states that "the
months seem to be Feb. and Mar. 1910" which leads me to believe he Didn't
find a definite date on these clippings.

And if you could please show me where it clearly states when the Cobb/Cobb
cards were circulated in the clippings I'd appreciate it, Perhaps I'm missing that.
The dates were most definitely Feb & March of 1910 for the articles that I posted... My statement about "the months seem to be" was a generalization meaning that "so far" this seems to be the trend.... At the time, there was still a lot of research to do....

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Old 03-04-2016, 11:41 AM
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The dates were most definitely Feb & March of 1910 for the articles that I posted... My statement about "the months seem to be" was a generalization meaning that "so far" this seems to be the trend.... At the time, there was still a lot of research to do....
Thank you Shawn, I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't calling anyone
a liar. I was only saying I didn't see a date on the clippings But Ted has a bad
habit of trying to put words in peoples mouths.
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Thank you Shawn, I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't calling anyone
a liar. I was only saying I didn't see a date on the clippings But Ted has a bad
habit of trying to put words in peoples mouths.
What the hell are you saying here ? .... "But Ted has a bad habit of trying to put words in peoples mouths."

I did NOT "put words" in your mouth ! ! .... I simply asked you a question in response to "wise-a$$" remark you made regarding my Post #81.

This crap of your's is sidetracking what is a great thread. It's time to grow up, and quit your snide remarks on whatever meaningful inputs on this subject
matter that I have been posting in this thread.


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Old 03-04-2016, 01:10 PM
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I posted this several years ago - Neat adv. stating 10c per package...

March 10 1910 Augusta Ga. Paper.

Also notice at the bottom it states:

Reidsville NC
Atlanta Ga
Sanfrancisco Cal
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