Buying Slabbed cards...security...or the contrary?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Unless "they" are now able to fabricate their own holders, that must be the explanation.

this seems to be the case...not just fake cards...but fake slabs and fake slips.

[ullmandds]

i mean if there are people out there falsifying passports and currency...how hard could it be to fake slabs and plastic cases?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i mean if there are people out there falsifying passports and currency...how hard could it be to fake slabs and plastic cases?

Not a question of difficulty perhaps, but expense.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not a question of difficulty perhaps, but expense.

Sending a slab to china to be replicated can likely be done for a few thousand...if not significantly less...the upside is limitless.

I mean they knock off cars...ie land wind vs land rover evoque...and whole apple stores...how hard is it to knock off 2 very simple pieces of plastic?

[Snapolit1]

Grading companies make mistakes, like human beings involved in any other endeavor you can think of, but I don't know how you can seriously argue that buying graded cards doesn't give you some layer of added security. Any kid with a good color copies can try to fake a 54 Mantle and pass it off. A hell of lot harder to also getmin a case with a fake PSA tag.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Sending a slab to china to be replicated can likely be done for a few thousand...if not significantly less...the upside is limitless.

I mean they knock off cars...ie land wind vs land rover evoque...and whole apple stores...how hard is it to knock off 2 very simple pieces of plastic?

What's the basis for your cost estimate?

[ullmandds]

My estimate is based on the fact I have a friend who is an inventor of sorts and he makes proto types occasionally so I know what it costs to make. I also have a friend of the family whose business is knocking off products having them made in China and selling them here and around the world ... And he has told me a lot about dealing and costs in China .

Additionally to digitally scan a slab would be very simple and inexpensive and once you have this information finding someone to fabricate it cannot be difficult or expensive. Probably can easily be done via email .

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

My estimate is based on the fact I have a few friends who are inventors of sorts and are making Proto types occasionally so I know what it cost to make a Proto type. Additionally to take a digital image of a slab would be very simple and inexpensive once you have this information finding someone to fabricated cannot be difficult or expensive.

If you're right we're in even more trouble than I thought.