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Old 06-28-2015, 03:38 PM
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Thanks for chipping in Carlton
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Old 06-28-2015, 04:41 PM
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As you look through the cropping pictures go back and forth, notice the height of the checklist boxes relative to the card numbers. All part of the cropping differences.

I have never seen a variation in the first series 1972 CL, card #4. I suspect it is because it was part of a 132 card series. The first series did include the 2nd series checklist but the 1st CL was not double printed.

Ditto for the 1973 BB set of 660--five series of 132. The decision by Topps to not double print the first series or show a preview CL of the next series was followed shortly by a shift to a full release of cards vs series by series. Whether or not that started in 1974 or 1973 has been oft debated here.
Yeah, most of the variations have other nuances that are pretty plain to see. For instance, regarding the '71 Coins Checklist, the one version (with the black line across the gap) has the player names almost hitting the top border, while the other 2 versions have the names much further down. It was clearly a purposeful change in the layout of the cards.

That's very interesting about the '72 CL, and seems to make perfect sense. The layout of that particular checklist is so basic, with hardly anything going on except a straight list of names (no copyright appearing, etc.), that it would be pretty easy to spot a variation if one did exist.
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Old 06-28-2015, 05:33 PM
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The 1970 Topps #9 checklist card is most likely single printed also as it seems to command a premium over other 70 Topps checklist cards.
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It is single printed. Series of 132.

Larry, do you see a premium for the 1972 1st series CL?
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Ironically Carlton, I do not see any premiums for the 72 #4 checklist card....I do see premiums for all of the 73, 74 and 75 checklists(as they were all single printed).

With most of the 73 checklists typically carrying premiums (over the DP checklists from previous issues), this would further help to establish the fact that the 73 set was printed in single printing as the subsequent future sets were (although some collectors contend that the 73's were still distributed by series in some places).
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All 73 CLs came in series of 132 so all were SPs.
The 73s were definitely sold by series. I have tons of the first 3 series and had to order a couple of 4th and 5th series from Larry Fritsch in early 1974 to fill out two sets.
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1970 Topps checklist #9 is a bit of a puzzle, as there are two distinct versions, but it's more complex than that. I usually refer to the separate variations as: top of bat reaches the white border and; top of bat ends short of the white border. This could usually be explained as a simple registration problem regarding the colors mixed to make the brown bat or, more likely, the layer of red. However, that certainly doesn't fully explain it and I call your attention to the portion of the card I've highlighted in this gif.



If you look between the batter's elbow and his midsection, you'll see a black line there. In the one version, it's at the lowest point of the batter graphic and appears to 'close' the yellow box. But in the other version, this line is significantly higher up (and on a bit of a downward slant) and no longer connected to the very bottom of the batter. Since both the batter and this line are part of the black printing plate, the layout had to have been changed at some point, making this a true variation.

To play devil's advocate, I will say there's a tiny possibility that this line is actually part of the red/magenta plate, so it's movement would fit in with the obvious shift of that color. However, under strong magnification, I see nothing but a black/grey line there, so I'm not sure that's a reasonable counter-argument.
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