Ethical to sell 1952 Mantle PSA 8 uncracked case

[pawpawdiv9]

Based on what i read- this guy bought a PSA 8 holder, that a 52 Mick used to be in. (after carefully reading) He puts a pic of the card inside it?
So, the folks are buying basically a holder with a pic of the card? or am i missing something?

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

Based on what i read- this guy bought a PSA 8 holder, that a 52 Mick used to be in. (after carefully reading) He puts a pic of the card inside it?
So, the folks are buying basically a holder with a pic of the card? or am i missing something?

Not exactly. He claims the case originally held a Yzerman RC card and the case basically fell apart on him when he received it back from PSA. He then took pictures of a real Mantle card and a real Mantle flip and put them inside the case in order to fool his friends.

[gregr2]

What????????

"I took the case to the Nationals and had a dealer beg me to sell it to him for $68,000.00."

[Leon]

This is slightly interesting so I moved it from a BST section...not sure why it was there anyway, as it should have gone in the Pre-1980 Postwar section. Anyone else willing to pay 68k for a holder? Sounds like a pretty good deal.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Leon

This is slightly interesting so I moved it from a BST section...not sure why it was there anyway, as it should have gone in the Pre-1980 Postwar section. Anyone else willing to pay 68k for a holder? Sounds like a pretty good deal.

wow I started a thread slightly interesting..thats the best so far!..


as to my question.......usualy when you see lots of lots of words and long storys in the seller description on an iconic card.....its usually shady.

I just question the holder getting into the wrong hands...who the heck else is buying it....the fact he says was offered 68k...

I just don't think fakes in legit holders no matter how well accurate the description shouldn't be for sale...... cant sell fake us currency for example that appears real even if you are accurate in a description...

would you want 1000 real holders out there that were bought by buyers knowing that the cards that would be put in there aren't accurately described in the holder?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

wow I started a thread slightly interesting..thats the best so far!..


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Don't pat yourself on the back too hard, it was still in the wrong section.

[Griffins]

Originally Posted by gregr2

What????????

"I took the case to the Nationals and had a dealer beg me to sell it to him for $68,000.00."

Maybe the lighting was bad at that table. Happens.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Griffins

Maybe the lighting was bad at that table. Happens.

Zing!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Pathetic, truly.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by griffins

maybe the lighting was bad at that table. Happens.

lmao

[digdugdig]

Originally Posted by gregr2

What????????

"I took the case to the Nationals and had a dealer beg me to sell it to him for $68,000.00."

Me thinks this is the reason people are bidding, unfortunately it will pop up again somewhere with a wee bit heavier price tag on it.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by digdugdig

Me thinks this is the reason people are bidding, unfortunately it will pop up again somewhere with a wee bit heavier price tag on it.

right watch out for a mantle psa 8 for 60% of the VCP sale price... (everyone keeps saying 60% is what fakes sell for in prior threads in examples) man just saved 150k+...except I wouldn't of paid that if the guy wanted me to pay by check and if Ian hasn't identified the alleged scam guy yet .....it would of been by paypal..

[sycks22]

It's sad that people like this guy ruin ebay. We all know it's going to be some kid who stole his dad's paypal and thinks he's getting a $100k card without even reading the description. I bet he does that same thing with a Wagner or Ruth in the near future and steal another couple hundo.

[Rollingstone206]

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[vintagehofrookies]

Originally Posted by digdugdig

Me thinks this is the reason people are bidding, unfortunately it will pop up again somewhere with a wee bit heavier price tag on it.

this is exactly what I was thinking which is explains why its over $200 so far. Keep your eyes open at the National this year as this might be making an appearance.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by vintagehofrookies

Keep your eyes open at the National this year as this might be making an appearance.

^^^ This.

Oh, please let that be one of the cards that is stolen, too. That would be Lady Karma knocking it out of the park! Two crooks getting worked over at the same time.

First, the unscrupulous gent who spent $500 to acquire the fake would be out his "investment", thereby insuring that he would have absolutely no chance of selling it for 100 times his purchase price to some unsuspecting chap at the start of the National...AND, the idiot who would risk his reputation, and his very freedom to steal the card, wouldn't be getting THE vintage baseball card, but a worthless reproduction.

Please, God. Should this happen, somebody on our board messages me, and send me the link.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

^^^ This.

Oh, please let that be one of the cards that is stolen, too. That would be Lady Karma knocking it out of the park! Two crooks getting worked over at the same time.

First, the unscrupulous gent who spent $500 to acquire the fake would be out his "investment", thereby insuring that he would have absolutely no chance of selling it for 100 times his purchase price to some unsuspecting chap at the start of the National...AND, the idiot who would risk his reputation, and his very freedom to steal the card, wouldn't be getting THE vintage baseball card, but a worthless reproduction.

Please, God. Should this happen, somebody on our board messages me, and send me the link.

well there are other things that are criminal and sketchy....what if someone buys the card for 69k..and its stolen..and files an insurance claim for a psa 8 mantle...could be a nice proft..


another issue is its one thing to pass off a psa 8 mantle ....but another to pass off a 2k card.....once you got a holder you have lots of choices of cards to use and price points....