Could this be a real Cobb auto?

[perezfan]

$300 might be a tad low (if it were real, which it's not).

I think $400 - $450 would be the going price for that particular example... just beacause the auto is strong, condition is good, and the medium is somewhat interesting.

[thebigtrain]

So for $28, which is what the Cobb receipt is bid to now, it might not be a bad deal to "fill a hole" in one's collection until a real one is available.

I guess Coach's Corner is useful for people who can't afford real autos to get started cheaply in the hobby. Then once you have money you can replace their stuff with real autos. In that sense CC is filling a sort of market niche, they should however just label everything as "reproduction" to be more honest. Maybe Morales's certs actually say in the fine print that the items are repros.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by thebigtrain

So for $28, which is what the Cobb receipt is bid to now, it might not be a bad deal to "fill a hole" in one's collection until a real one is available.

I guess Coach's Corner is useful for people who can't afford real autos to get started cheaply in the hobby. Then once you have money you can replace their stuff with real autos. In that sense CC is filling a sort of market niche, they should however just label everything as "reproduction" to be more honest. Maybe Morales's certs actually say in the fine print that the items are repros.

I hope your tongue is planted firmly in your cheek as you type that. For $28, I'll scrawl Cobb's name on a piece of paper myself to fill a hole in my collection. There is no excuse for knowingly supporting forgery, even at a low price point.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

I hope your tongue is planted firmly in your cheek as you type that. For $28, I'll scrawl Cobb's name on a piece of paper myself to fill a hole in my collection. There is no excuse for knowingly supporting forgery, even at a low price point.

I FULLY support Lance's statement here, I couldn't write it fast enough!!

[perezfan]

I really think "thebigtrain" was joking

[thebigtrain]

I was joking of course guys lol.

Also, it seems like the forgeries lately are getting cruder and cruder. I really wonder if there are any actual "consignors" or if the owners of CC just forge the stuff themselves. I also wonder why this just goes on and on and the Feds and Bucks County DA do nothing. At this point it is "willful blindness" on the part of the owners. No way can any rational person believe any of these autos are real. It's no different than if someone offers me 10 K to deliver a brown paper bag and when I get caught and a kilo of coke is in it I say "I didn't know I never looked inside."

[William Farrell]

Originally Posted by thebigtrain

I was joking of course guys lol.

Also, it seems like the forgeries lately are getting cruder and cruder. I really wonder if there are any actual "consignors" or if the owners of CC just forge the stuff themselves.

The later I'm sure. IMO, a handwriting analyst would find upwards of 80% of all items signed by deceased players to be executed by the same hand, and the writing implements do not appear to differ as well.

The same signature errors appear on almost all of the Ruths, trajectory approached from angles that Ruth's signature writing mechanism could not have executed, and this is true of many other players as well.

There are even some examples that appear to be directly copied (very slowly drawn with multiple retracing of the written line) from forged exemplars (yes, forgeries of forgeries), which is why for the most part, the signatures are performed so poorly, whoever is doing this is absolutely the most talentless forger in the world, IMO. It's so obvious that they may as well sign an old Bible, "Best Wishes, Moses 1455 B.C."