Gone with the stain. Dick Towle

[1880nonsports]

try and save a guys life and what happens :-)

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

try and save a guys life and what happens :-)

It's a crazy world ain't it Henry?

[joeadcock]

Hey Barry

Lots opinions all over the place

[Jantz]

I know for a fact that one of these T206s below was attached in a scrapbook and took a bath in 2009.

For the record, I knew the T206 was removed from a scrapbook and who I was buying it from.

Anyone want to take a guess which T206 went for a swim?

Jantz

[smokelessjoe]

I can see that Wonka is hung up on Brite White Borders... Ok Wonka, lets say you have a card that already has Brite White Borders but also has a streak of something running horizontally across the card and unfortunately right across the players face - you cannot tell me for a fact that you know what soaking this card in water or anything else is going to do... Would you have a problem if using the water removed all the evidence of the stain? But do not forget this card has Brite White Borders before and after the soak - no change in that regard.

I see your stance (wonka) as a double standard - its convenient for you as water is something you have dealt with. This reminds of some arguments that my wife will often pose in that "I do not do it anywhere near as much as she does".

I think you are telling me as well, that you would be ok with Dick Towles process as long as the stain removal process he uses left some evidence of the stain? Is this correct?

John,
Nothing personal here - like I said earlier its an interesting subject to me.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by smokelessjoe

I can see that Wonka is hung up on Brite White Borders... Ok Wonka, lets say you have a card that already has Brite White Borders but also has a streak of something running horizontally across the card and unfortunately right across the players face - you cannot tell me for a fact that you know what soaking this card in water or anything else is going to do... Would you have a problem if using the water removed all the evidence of the stain? But do not forget this card has Brite White Borders before and after the soak - no change in that regard.

I see your stance (wonka) as a double standard - its convenient for you as water is something you have dealt with. This reminds of some arguments that my wife will often pose in that "I do not do it anywhere near as much as she does".

I think you are telling me as well, that you would be ok with Dick Towles process as long as the stain removal process he uses left some evidence of the stain? Is this correct?

John,
Nothing personal here - like I said earlier its an interesting subject to me.

Shawn you are just grasping at odd hypotheticals to try and make soaking a card off a scrap book page in the same hemisphere as Dick’s work of cleaning and crease pressing. Not sure what else I can say. I will say it once again perhaps you will be the person who addresses this and doesn’t go back to trying to split hairs to make a case. Or go back to posting chemistry debates on H2O etc.

You tell me what bowl of warm water removes stains from Planks, brightens the entire card and removes most all traces of toning and age? Also tell me if it’s not a big deal why did the auction house try and hide this?



If not wanting to be lied to and be sold doctored up cards that had wax, tape stains and creases that now are sent in to Dick under secrecy and then sold to collectors with no disclosure at a huge profit makes me a hypocrite guilty as charged.

Cheers,

John

[smokelessjoe]

John,

I do not care for the Plank at all... Nor I do not care for your removed cards out of scrapbooks... Yes I am throwing out hypotheticals but they are not unreasonable situations...

I do not like nor do I buy into the "oh water.... its so gentle... I think i'll just toss a couple of cards in a bowl... because, well just because". If you think people remove or restore or clean-up cards to the point that one barely can tell the difference before & after the water soak your just fooling yourself. We have seen examples here on the board where people made huge differences in the before & after with just water. And of course money is never the motivator when water is used right?

You tell me how you know what in the world a bowl of warm water would remove from a card? By the way, I think apparently you would be amazed at what my mother can do to stains etc. with just warm water.

Oh & I may be splitting hairs but I have not been posting chemistry debates as you say? - you can go back to searching your desktop cache of funny pictures you swiped from the Internet etc. in hopes that you find something that fits what you are not able to verbalize....

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Shawn you are just grasping at odd hypotheticals to try and make soaking a card off a scrap book page in the same hemisphere as Dick’s work of cleaning and crease pressing. Not sure what else I can say. I will say it once again perhaps you will be the person who addresses this and doesn’t go back to trying to split hairs to make a case. Or go back to posting chemistry debates on H2O etc.

You tell me what bowl of warm water removes stains from Planks, brightens the entire card and removes most all traces of toning and age? Also tell me if it’s not a big deal why did the auction house try and hide this?



If not wanting to be lied to and be sold doctored up cards that had wax, tape stains and creases that now are sent in to Dick under secrecy and then sold to collectors with no disclosure at a huge profit makes me a hypocrite guilty as charged.

Cheers,

John

John, I miss that show!

[Edward]

Is vitamin water okay?

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Edward

Is vitamin water okay?

I believe it will destroy the cards but will effectively replace their electrolytes.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

try and save a guys life and what happens :-)

Thanks for my first laugh of the day!

Also, I have to congratulate all members who have been able to show certificates and licenses that are relevant to this discussion. All I can present is a copy of my MBA, but all that was good for was basic decisions related to business (also, ethics and such), and this is more of discussion of....